The long DIVA thread
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- KVRAF
- 24411 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Should be ok, will be even better when Diva actually implements multicore capabilities.
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- Banned
- 85 posts since 2 Jul, 2011
thats my exact rig, running diva (and everything else) flawlessly with no problemsSimon-Claudius wrote:Hello friends!
I'm thinking about buying a MacBook (Pro). My trusty old MacBook (not 'Pro') is four years old which becomes especially obvious when using current software that is hard on the CPU.
Do you think a quad-core i7 Macbook Pro with 2.4 GHz and 8GB RAM would be sufficient to run DIVA properly?
Thank you very much!
Simon-Claudius
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- KVRAF
- 4867 posts since 18 Dec, 2000
that's exactly what I have, I run Diva fine, I had 6 Diva's going no problem.Simon-Claudius wrote:Hello friends!
I'm thinking about buying a MacBook (Pro). My trusty old MacBook (not 'Pro') is four years old which becomes especially obvious when using current software that is hard on the CPU.
Do you think a quad-core i7 Macbook Pro with 2.4 GHz and 8GB RAM would be sufficient to run DIVA properly?
Thank you very much!
Simon-Claudius
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dw
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aaron aardvark aaron aardvark https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=248508
- KVRAF
- 3058 posts since 22 Jan, 2011 from near Los Angeles
What is GS? I have a Juno 106 that I bought new in 1984 & it quit working in 1991. I never got it fixed. I tried some "Juno 60" patches that someone else made for Diva. Effects probably played a role, but I don't remember my real Juno 106 sounding that good. Don't know if Juno 60's sound significantly better that a Juno 106; I've read some people think the 60 sounds warmer that a 106. Maybe it's true. Though I have played a real Juno 60 eons ago, and at that time, I thought it sounded basically the same as a Juno 106.
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- KVRer
- 12 posts since 1 Sep, 2010
On a Macbook Air 13" 2011, I have a track going right now with 4 instances of Diva going at any one time (about 12 other tracks as well), and it's just starting to kill the CPU. Sounds like multicore implementation will make that better. I've also noticed that it depends a LOT on how many voices are going. Playing 6-10 voices on a few instances of Diva at a time totally destroys my machine.
But this thing sounds so freakin' great, I'll freeze if need be.
Macbook Pro i7 should be just fine.
But this thing sounds so freakin' great, I'll freeze if need be.
Macbook Pro i7 should be just fine.
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- KVRer
- 12 posts since 1 Sep, 2010
A possible bug:
In Ableton, I can't get the LFO 2 "Rate" knob to automate. When I hit "Configure", I can automate Delay, but not Rate or Phase or RateMod or DepthMod. I've resorted to automating "Sync" instead, but that makes some WEIRD effects, as the sync values aren't in order from shortest to longest. Some cool fx by ramping the "Sync" value, but not exactly what I'm looking for. Any ideas?
In Ableton, I can't get the LFO 2 "Rate" knob to automate. When I hit "Configure", I can automate Delay, but not Rate or Phase or RateMod or DepthMod. I've resorted to automating "Sync" instead, but that makes some WEIRD effects, as the sync values aren't in order from shortest to longest. Some cool fx by ramping the "Sync" value, but not exactly what I'm looking for. Any ideas?
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- KVRAF
- 4867 posts since 18 Dec, 2000
I just checked my Diva track and at 125 samples in Ableton Live 8.x.x the max CPU peaks are 48%, but those are just just quick peaks, mostly it's in the 20's.
This is with 6 Diva's , 4 of them playing 4 note chords all at the same time.
on my MacBookPro i7, 4 gigs of ram.
dw
This is with 6 Diva's , 4 of them playing 4 note chords all at the same time.
on my MacBookPro i7, 4 gigs of ram.
dw
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- KVRer
- 12 posts since 1 Sep, 2010
Don't know if anyone's posting demos using Diva, but I thought I would:
http://soundcloud.com/felixocean/zootropic-0
All sounds are Diva except drums and glitch.
http://soundcloud.com/felixocean/zootropic-0
All sounds are Diva except drums and glitch.
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- KVRAF
- 24411 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
www.gearslutz.comaaron aardvark wrote:What is GS?
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
Me likes! Good sounds and stylish music. Cool drumming, programmed or played with a midi controller? I mean not all the coolness comes from Glitch, right?dkmooers wrote:Don't know if anyone's posting demos using Diva, but I thought I would:
http://soundcloud.com/felixocean/zootropic-0
All sounds are Diva except drums and glitch.
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
Isn't Juno 106 just a Juno 60 with midi?
I had a juno 106 a long time ago and i remember its sound when playing with diva, especially the filter
I had a juno 106 a long time ago and i remember its sound when playing with diva, especially the filter
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- KVRAF
- 1895 posts since 13 Oct, 2002
Re: matching vintage gear. I mentioned this superficially in an earlier thread and I believe it's still valid: every vintage device even of same lot # will degrade differently over time than it's brother. Electronic components will age at different rates subject to time in use, environmental exposure, quality, materials, original tolerances, not to mention repair, modification and substitution.
I bet if you got 10 vintage Jupiter's in the same room and did the kind of micro-analysis that Urs and his team have been doing, you'd find a significant amount of variation in sound using the exact same parameters, and naturally the deeper the magnification the greater the differences that would be found.
In a sense, electronic vintage gear is similar to acoustic gear: time will change the sound of the instrument sometimes for the better, and often for the worst, not only depending on how it is treated and maintained, but sometimes by the pure dumb variation of materials over time. So some vintage synths just sound better than others, and some will sound "better" because they're out of spec!
So to be really extensive (not to say "insanely meticulous"), a study would have to be made to examine how components age in each subsection of a synth, and then a set of appropriate controls would be implemented to vary parameters such as "Years in Service", "Capacitor Degeneration", "Resistor Degeneration", "Transistor/Diode mismatch", etc, that would allow customization within every subsection of every synth model. There would also have to be switches for the known modifications and optimizations done for these as well. All this is of course totally freakin' nuts!
But maybe it's possible to have simple macro controls like Ace's Circuit Bending parameters on the Tweak Page, to "bend" the response of the synth emulation towards some of it's more common variations. This might go some way towards satisfying the hardware purists, but as Urs pointed out, they are few and far between and typically nothing will convince them anyway.
Personally, I think Diva is a marvel and already more than I ever expected. But whenever audio comparisons are involved, the Devil is definitely in the details and let's not forget that everyone's ears, sound systems, and listening environments are different; in audio comparisons, these are far from irrelevant parameters...
I bet if you got 10 vintage Jupiter's in the same room and did the kind of micro-analysis that Urs and his team have been doing, you'd find a significant amount of variation in sound using the exact same parameters, and naturally the deeper the magnification the greater the differences that would be found.
In a sense, electronic vintage gear is similar to acoustic gear: time will change the sound of the instrument sometimes for the better, and often for the worst, not only depending on how it is treated and maintained, but sometimes by the pure dumb variation of materials over time. So some vintage synths just sound better than others, and some will sound "better" because they're out of spec!
So to be really extensive (not to say "insanely meticulous"
), a study would have to be made to examine how components age in each subsection of a synth, and then a set of appropriate controls would be implemented to vary parameters such as "Years in Service", "Capacitor Degeneration", "Resistor Degeneration", "Transistor/Diode mismatch", etc, that would allow customization within every subsection of every synth model. There would also have to be switches for the known modifications and optimizations done for these as well. All this is of course totally freakin' nuts!But maybe it's possible to have simple macro controls like Ace's Circuit Bending parameters on the Tweak Page, to "bend" the response of the synth emulation towards some of it's more common variations. This might go some way towards satisfying the hardware purists, but as Urs pointed out, they are few and far between and typically nothing will convince them anyway.
Personally, I think Diva is a marvel and already more than I ever expected. But whenever audio comparisons are involved, the Devil is definitely in the details and let's not forget that everyone's ears, sound systems, and listening environments are different; in audio comparisons, these are far from irrelevant parameters...
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 19 Dec, 2008
Nice job Urs and all at U-HE. This is very fluid sounding for a VST. I'm not a trainspotter...in that I don't care about meticulous emulations. It just seems fun and satisfying to use.
Will this include the loading of tuning files when released?
Will this include the loading of tuning files when released?
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- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Thanksj0hnny wrote:Nice job Urs and all at U-HE. This is very fluid sounding for a VST. I'm not a trainspotter...in that I don't care about meticulous emulations. It just seems fun and satisfying to use.
Yes.Will this include the loading of tuning files when released?
