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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:07 am

atraf11 wrote:now a question about your vision for DIVA...

would you consider DIVA pretty much "feature complete" once its released or are there big plans to make this thing even crazier than it already it is?

We'll consider her feature complete. Unless we change our mind.

No-one should ever buy a product based on future expectations. There is a good chance that we add more models, but there's only little chance for a CS80, or "complete" panels. If at all then we will most likely add a filter or two, and maybe some envelope. There's also a chance for a "digital" VCO model. That however depends on sales (looking good), time (ugh) and resources (need reference model)

The other thing is, we've planned some overall improvements (still gonna try to get multicore happening, also VST3 etc). Of these she will benefit, but there won't be a change in sound.

So yes, for now and for at least a year or two she'll be feature complete. Everything beyond that requires psychic abilities

atukao · Post by **atukao** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:20 am

Please do consider adding a Prophet 5 Rev 2 filter - SSM2040 to either Diva or Berlin Modular.
It really is one of the best filters ever created.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:28 am

atukao wrote:Please do consider adding a Prophet 5 Rev 2 filter - SSM2040 to either Diva or Berlin Modular.
It really is one of the best filters ever created.

Yes, that's the most requested one. But also the hardest to get

olikana · Post by **olikana** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:10 pm

Urs wrote:
atukao wrote:
Urs wrote:We fixed a gazillion of bugs... FM should sound as good as it gets now...
Has all aliasing been eliminated?
It's impossible to eliminate all aliasing, but I think we've done a pretty good job. It gets audible at extreme settings, in which one might argue it doesn't really matter all that much.

wow this is really great news....it was driving me mad....to the point where i started oversampling diva by 3x whenever an FM sound is needed(yes i started running Diva at 192khz :embarassed: )

oversampling did help
for example listen to these examples

this is 192khz
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50331508/fmat192_r8b.wav

and this is 44.1khz
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50331508/fmat44100.wav

notice how at 44khz some completely artefacted sub is created by ghost alias artfacts.
btw i allready noticed this problem when recreating the yazoo don't go patch patch.

and listen to this
at 192
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50331508/fmcomp ... 22_r8b.wav

and at 44.100 some alias fizzz to the sound.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50331508/fmcomparison244100.wav

i'm very glad the issue got adressed and can;t wait to hear the new beta.

btw i have a cem3340 in my eurorack so i'm waiting for a cem3340 product to be released to make some software vs hardare comparison of the FM. then i'll see if it;s the case to sell all my hardware ;P

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:45 pm

I'm hoping we see a new beta this weekend. Right now, the CPU usage is the only thing holding me back from buying. If it's somewhat improved (I'm not expecting it to be low CPU at all, just looking for a few more voices) in the next beta, then I'd definitely buy a license now.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:49 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:I'm hoping we see a new beta this weekend. Right now, the CPU usage is the only thing holding me back from buying. If it's somewhat improved (I'm not expecting it to be low CPU at all, just looking for a few more voices) in the next beta, then I'd definitely buy a license now.

Sorry, but cpu won't be improved...

I have a very last moment bug that I want to fix. Otherwise I would have posted the current build.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:52 pm

Urs wrote:
atukao wrote:Please do consider adding a Prophet 5 Rev 2 filter - SSM2040 to either Diva or Berlin Modular.
It really is one of the best filters ever created.
Yes, that's the most requested one. But also the hardest to get

John Bowen did an excellent emulation of the CEM and SSM filters for his Proph@t synth on Scope (and Solaris)

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:21 pm

Urs wrote:
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:I'm hoping we see a new beta this weekend. Right now, the CPU usage is the only thing holding me back from buying. If it's somewhat improved (I'm not expecting it to be low CPU at all, just looking for a few more voices) in the next beta, then I'd definitely buy a license now.
Sorry, but cpu won't be improved...

I have a very last moment bug that I want to fix. Otherwise I would have posted the current build.

I still may buy anyway. Perhaps I'll just stick to basses and leads (or just go to Fast mode and improve the quality on render).

News From The Sky · Post by **News From The Sky** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:53 pm

Urs wrote:If at all then we will most likely add a filter or two, and maybe some envelope. There's also a chance for a "digital" VCO model. That however depends on sales (looking good), time (ugh) and resources (need reference model

Prophet VS would be my vote (4 oscillators with a vector envelope).

I hope your Pro-One/Synthex makes it in at some point, and I think the two biggest remaining targets are probably an SSM filter and an Oberheim filter.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:58 pm

Urs wrote: If at all then we will most likely add a filter or two, and maybe some envelope. There's also a chance for a "digital" VCO model. That however depends on sales (looking good), time (ugh) and resources (need reference model)

Would this be equivalent to an SH-101? I don't even know what kind of oscillator model that would be, but I like it. Is it closer to the juno or jupiter osc/filter?

xybre · Post by **xybre** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:57 am

I've only had the one issue so far, but considering how often I've seen "yes" as a response to people's feature request I'm really curious what all is going to be added. O_O

I'm dying for a standalone version of the filter, to be honest. But that's a silly thing to request right now, as I'm eagerly awaiting the next beta of Diva.

PAK · Post by **PAK** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:53 am

Urs wrote:
atukao wrote:Please do consider adding a Prophet 5 Rev 2 filter - SSM2040 to either Diva or Berlin Modular.
It really is one of the best filters ever created.
Yes, that's the most requested one. But also the hardest to get

There's been at least two or three Prophet 5 rev 1's and 2's on Ebay in the last 2 or 3 months.. Or did you mean for less than $4,000-$5,000?

Now I check there's even both a rev 1 and a 2 on Ebay USA currently..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sequential-Circ ... 0643620334
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sequential-Circ ... 0820617717

Though not ideal, back on planet earth there's always the clones I suppose - motm440, tiptop 2040, filtareseiii, mattson mini, Analog Metropolis kit (if you can source 2040 chips) etc. I'm sure there's probably even more.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:55 am

Hehe, sorry, I'm not looking in th US... For that kind of beef I want to see it first.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:00 am

xybre wrote:I've only had the one issue so far, but considering how often I've seen "yes" as a response to people's feature request I'm really curious what all is going to be added.

Actually, the only "yes" was for Unison... everything else is either bugfix, or "maybe" or "we'll try"

j0hnny · Post by **j0hnny** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:23 am

I seem to get a 'bit reduction' type sound behind the oscillators when using an LFO on the Filter Cutoff with the Restart value 'single'.

The CPU is running fine at only 13%

To replicate the settings, start from the default preset then simply increase the LFO 2 Control on the filter. Then select 'single' restart on LFO 2.

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