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Crackbaby · Post by **Crackbaby** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:50 am

Whatever you did with this new beta...

..knocked down Jupiter6 in favour of MS20! The filters sound so .. and the osc's sound so ... so ... *faints*

Extra thank you goes to Bronto Scorpio for the valhallaroom presets!! (i like having delay and reverb in sends)

Great new beta guys at U-he!

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:10 pm

Any chance of having the phaser rate go to zero?

euklid.fox · Post by **euklid.fox** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:48 pm

sorry to insist but.. sync - phase retrig - phase offset?

Diva sounds so fantastic, it's really a masterpiece. Real congrats to the team that did a "magic' job here. however im a bit disapointed not that much people seem to consider it as very very important and needed feature, (imo even prior to multi-proc, arps or anything else). it's in the basic core of sound generation. lot of modern electro bass,percussive sounds and more need consistent phase accuracy. if you open back projects and phases correlations are messed, it may sound analog, it will sound...messed.
if your kick or bass is never the same, it can be good in some cases, but generally it's resulting in more sloppy and weird unwanted results...
having the choice to sync or not is the best of booth worlds.
Resampling to raw static wav to get rid of this would be a crime..

if the argument is analog don't had those, what prevent to use a system like this: if not adjusted (default), phase behave exactly like actually, if adjusted it apply phase offset and retrig. having the choice is better than no choice imo. take the best from past and implement improvement is never a bad thing. imo it's better than sticking to 1:1 emus..

sure it must be a bit of work to implement, and might add cpu (only if used) but resulting modularity in sound design is non-negligeable. diva is very simple (in terms of user tweaks), the oscillator could get those 'basic' but so powerful functions without bloating it imo...

iam about to buy it, and i certainly will anyway as diva is kind of drug, once you tasted it no way back, but i would so enjoy be sure it will be implemented in futur..

please please please please please say it will

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:08 pm

hakey wrote:Any chance of having the phaser rate go to zero?

Hmmm... not for this one...

electro · Post by **electro** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:20 pm

The menu drop downs aren't available when bridged under the x64 vst host

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:22 pm

euklid.fox wrote:sorry to insist but.. sync - phase retrig - phase offset?

We are still thinking about that, but it's not easily implemented.

As much as it sounds like a no-brainer, part of what makes Diva's mojo are some tricks that prevent her from exhibiting digital artifacts (not just aliasing - Diva can alias like there's no tomorrow)

We've deployed several concepts to avoid the "fade in" bug that can be observed with so many digital synths. We are basically simulating free running voices on various levels. When a voice is recalled from standby, we're calculating where the envelopes and modulations would have been, we're rendering oscillators and filters into Nirvana for a bunch of samples to "take", before we actually let them go on air. That makes it sheerly impossible to calculate the phase we're looking at when a voice gets restarted.

A phase reset feature would be bought by bringing back the fade-in bug, which in turn would get the friends of the Minimoog sound on the fence.

However, it isn't completely off the table. A Sync signal might be possible, but certainly not at a selected phase.

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:23 pm

Urs wrote:
hakey wrote:Any chance of having the phaser rate go to zero?
Hmmm... not for this one...

No worries (so the 'phase' knob is just for real time tweaks).

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:23 pm

electro wrote:The menu drop downs aren't available when bridged under the x64 vst host

That's been so all the time. Dunno why they don't fix that.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:24 pm

hakey wrote:
Urs wrote:
hakey wrote:Any chance of having the phaser rate go to zero?
Hmmm... not for this one...
No worries (so the 'phase' knob is just for real time tweaks).

The phase knob is for the host-synced mode...

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:30 pm

Urs wrote:The phase knob is for the host-synced mode...

Of course

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:33 pm

Not an argument for phase reset in Diva, but just out of interest - do vintage analog drum machines employ oscillator phase reset?

olikana · Post by **olikana** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:35 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote: I think it's worth making an MS-20 controller midimap as well. I'm still very curious to see if it's possible to use the cables on the MS-20 controller for mod routings. It must send some kind of midi signal.

mmmmm cute. i have the ms20 controller would be really sweet to patch things up from there.

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:36 pm

Urs is there a change log?

olikana · Post by **olikana** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:45 pm

i'm a bit confused by the new glowing led in the trimmers section "calibrate vcf to 48khz"....and it can't be deactivated nor modified...what is it there for?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:46 pm

grymmjack wrote:Urs is there a change log?

Comes with the download. There's an "about" document with known issues and bug fix history

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