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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:47 pm

olikana wrote:i'm a bit confused by the new glowing led in the trimmers section "calibrate vcf to 48khz"....and it can't be deactivated nor modified...what is it there for?

It'll be gone. It's a bit out to date anyway because all sampelrates and quality modes are calibrated now.

I decided that we won't have non-calibrated cutoff. (Hence you can't turn it off)

euklid.fox · Post by **euklid.fox** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:48 pm

Urs wrote:
euklid.fox wrote:sorry to insist but.. sync - phase retrig - phase offset?
......
We've deployed several concepts to avoid the "fade in" bug that can be observed with so many digital synths. We are basically simulating free running voices on various levels. When a voice is recalled from standby, we're calculating where the envelopes and modulations would have been, we're rendering oscillators and filters into Nirvana for a bunch of samples to "take", before we actually let them go on air. That makes it sheerly impossible to calculate the phase we're looking at when a voice gets restarted.

A phase reset feature would be bought by bringing back the fade-in bug, which in turn would get the friends of the Minimoog sound on the fence.

However, it isn't completely off the table. A Sync signal might be possible, but certainly not at a selected phase.

many thanks for your answer/explain Urs, really appreciated, even if a bit sad news, at least im fixed. i can better understand the problem. If you find a way for sync even w/o phase control i would be more than happy, but im already very happy, i guess i will sample and rec if i really need strong synced stuff...
arf, still sound like a crime to my ears

keep the great work'
cheers

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:48 pm

hakey wrote:Not an argument for phase reset in Diva, but just out of interest - do vintage analog drum machines employ oscillator phase reset?

I have no idea.

olikana · Post by **olikana** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:00 pm

osc sync to gate would be a valid alternative to the typical softsynth phase reset.
if sync gets added to the patch panel.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:05 pm

olikana wrote:osc sync to gate would be a valid alternative to the typical softsynth phase reset.
if sync gets added to the patch panel.

Yeah... the probelem is however that the Gate signal arrives *before* we pre-render the voices. Thus the actual phase would be frequency dependent. It's an odd problem, not easy to tackle.

euklid.fox · Post by **euklid.fox** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:07 pm

hakey wrote:Not an argument for phase reset in Diva, but just out of interest - do vintage analog drum machines employ oscillator phase reset?

i think they do sin based kicks seem consitent on 808 and 909, old analog electribes ect..

mind ya a kick can be easly resampled, and it's a bit reductive to use diva for that kind of task, but in my case i planned to try diva for psy trance basses, wich need same phase restart each note, while keeping some cut off/pitch/fm/length variations possible, wich make the sampling task much harder, so def up for a sync 'magic' trick

anyway diva is a beast.

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:08 pm

Urs wrote:
grymmjack wrote:Urs is there a change log?
Comes with the download. There's an "about" document with known issues and bug fix history

thanks

PietW. · Post by **PietW.** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:19 pm

Hi Urs,

i am a Wavejunkie.

Will there be more Oscilatorwaves in a later update ?

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:23 pm

Just jumped on the most excellent offer and instead of a successful purchase I got the traditional Your Order Have Been Delayed by our lovely friends at Share-It. Thank the maker that this is an open beta. If I know the glueheads at Share-It this will take a while.

Sorry for the OT.

aaron aardvark · Post by **aaron aardvark** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:26 pm

With the 467, sometimes various patches (anyone's) just give unpleasant crackly noise (and sometimes they don't). I'm trying to remember if Diva did that before. Maybe I was selecting patches too fast? I'm using Cubase LE4 & an iMac about 2 years old.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:43 pm

PietW. wrote:Hi Urs,

i am a Wavejunkie.
Will there be more Oscilatorwaves in a later update ?

Hi Piet,

ich weiss es noch nicht. Wir werden erstmal froh sein, wenn Diva so fertig wird wie sie jetzt ist...

(short: No idea yet)

Urs

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:08 pm

Btw. tomorrow I'll post a version that actually passes AUValidation

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:22 pm

Urs wrote:
hakey wrote:Not an argument for phase reset in Diva, but just out of interest - do vintage analog drum machines employ oscillator phase reset?
I have no idea.

Wasn't the 808 kick a self resonating BP filter instead of a osc? Not sure at the moment. And no idea if it is possible to reset the phase of a filter. I don't think so. (One of the new intellijel modules does exactly that iirc though).

Cheers
Dennis

xh3rv · Post by **xh3rv** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:46 pm

Bronto Scorpio wrote:Wasn't the 808 kick a self resonating BP filter instead of a osc?

Yeah, with no VCA - decay time adjusted by adjusting feedback, definitely a signature way to achieve an envelope.

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:21 pm

Bronto Scorpio wrote:Wasn't the 808 kick a self resonating BP filter instead of a osc? Not sure at the moment. And no idea if it is possible to reset the phase of a filter.

By chance I'd already made a kick in Diva using just the BP filter at full res - it's the only way I've yet found for getting a kick with a consistent attack.

Which then got me thinking about phase reset oscillators in analogue drum machines.

(Isn't a resonating filter an oscillator anyway?)

u-he

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