This isn't a contest - people who still use 2007/8 computers might like to participate and compare results. Then perhaps they will upgrade and use "divine" morehakey wrote:With respect to the OP, the question of how many voices of the most cpu intensive patch a new system can handle has more relevance (it's unlikely that anyone will be thinking about buying a 4 year old machine to run Diva).
Hardware required for Diva, what are you using?
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 10251 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
Precisely.Howard wrote:This isn't a contest - people who still use 2007/8 computers might like to participate and compare results. Then perhaps they will upgrade and use "divine" morehakey wrote:With respect to the OP, the question of how many voices of the most cpu intensive patch a new system can handle has more relevance (it's unlikely that anyone will be thinking about buying a 4 year old machine to run Diva).
This could be a good measure to determine what one can expect through a computer upgrade with respect to DIVA.
- KVRist
- 396 posts since 29 Aug, 2006 from Eta Carinae
Sonar X1 64-bit Win 7
Focusrite Saffire Pro 14 @ 44.1 kHz with 3072 samples (max.) latency setting
Audio drivers at 24-bit depth Sonar engine at 64-bit double precision
core i7-2600k @ 4.4 GHz
CPU% from Task Monitor average
Computer system running standard my usual every-day routines including Firefox 8 and Task Monitor
10 instances of Diva INIT Alpha patch - Divine - voices at 16 each instance - volume 10
1 note - 21% CPU
2 notes -40% CPU
3 notes - 55% CPU occasional stuttering - no dropouts.
10 instances of Diva INIT Alpha patch - Great - voices at 16 each instance - volume 10
1 note - 15%
2 notes - 29%
3 notes - 41%
4 notes - 53% occasional stuttering - no dropouts
10 instances of Diva INIT Alpha patch - Fast - voices at 16 each instance - volume 10
1 note - 12%
2 notes - 19%
3 notes - 25%
4 notes - 34%
5 notes - 38%
6 notes - 49%
7 notes - 55% occasional stuttering - no dropouts
10 instances of Diva INIT Alpha patch - Draft - voices at 16 each instance - volume 10
1 note - 5%
2 notes - 9%
3 notes - 12%
4 notes - 13%
5 notes - 17%
6 notes - 20%
7 notes - 21%
8 notes - 22%
9 notes - 24%
...
19 notes - started to stutter - no dropouts
Focusrite Saffire Pro 14 @ 44.1 kHz with 3072 samples (max.) latency setting
Audio drivers at 24-bit depth Sonar engine at 64-bit double precision
core i7-2600k @ 4.4 GHz
CPU% from Task Monitor average
Computer system running standard my usual every-day routines including Firefox 8 and Task Monitor
10 instances of Diva INIT Alpha patch - Divine - voices at 16 each instance - volume 10
1 note - 21% CPU
2 notes -40% CPU
3 notes - 55% CPU occasional stuttering - no dropouts.
10 instances of Diva INIT Alpha patch - Great - voices at 16 each instance - volume 10
1 note - 15%
2 notes - 29%
3 notes - 41%
4 notes - 53% occasional stuttering - no dropouts
10 instances of Diva INIT Alpha patch - Fast - voices at 16 each instance - volume 10
1 note - 12%
2 notes - 19%
3 notes - 25%
4 notes - 34%
5 notes - 38%
6 notes - 49%
7 notes - 55% occasional stuttering - no dropouts
10 instances of Diva INIT Alpha patch - Draft - voices at 16 each instance - volume 10
1 note - 5%
2 notes - 9%
3 notes - 12%
4 notes - 13%
5 notes - 17%
6 notes - 20%
7 notes - 21%
8 notes - 22%
9 notes - 24%
...
19 notes - started to stutter - no dropouts
Jim Hurley - experimental music
Windows 10 Pro (20H2 19042.662); i9-9900K@5.1GHz;
Cakewalk; Adam Audio A8X; Axiom 61
Windows 10 Pro (20H2 19042.662); i9-9900K@5.1GHz;
Cakewalk; Adam Audio A8X; Axiom 61
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
Mine is from 2007 but was/is already a Quad Core (Core 2 Quad Q6600).Howard wrote:This isn't a contest - people who still use 2007/8 computers might like to participate and compare results. Then perhaps they will upgrade and use "divine" morehakey wrote:With respect to the OP, the question of how many voices of the most cpu intensive patch a new system can handle has more relevance (it's unlikely that anyone will be thinking about buying a 4 year old machine to run Diva).
Based on that comparing CPUs from 2007 seems to be a valid point...
Ingo
Ingo Weidner
Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 / Pro Tools Ultimate 2021 // NI Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1
Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 / Pro Tools Ultimate 2021 // NI Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1
- KVRAF
- 5234 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
Which bit of my post said or even implied it was a contest?Howard wrote:This isn't a contest - people who still use 2007/8 computers might like to participate and compare results. Then perhaps they will upgrade and use "divine" morehakey wrote:With respect to the OP, the question of how many voices of the most cpu intensive patch a new system can handle has more relevance (it's unlikely that anyone will be thinking about buying a 4 year old machine to run Diva).
For people *like myself* with vintage machines, how well a spanking new fast cpu handles Diva's expensive patches is of real interest. How other people's old machines perform is neither here nor there.
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
For you, OK. But for others it will be both "here and there" IMHO.hakey wrote:For people *like myself* with vintage machines, how well a spanking new fast cpu handles Diva's expensive patches is of real interest. How other people's old machines perform is neither here nor there.
And... of course anyone can post any stats they like!
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- KVRian
- 814 posts since 18 May, 2007 from Berlin
On an Intel Core i7 860 @ 2.80GHz here, test patch "INIT Alpha":
Divine: 5 voices
Great: 6 voices
Fast: 11 voices
Draft: all 16 (using about 60% of the one core it's running on)
Divine: 5 voices
Great: 6 voices
Fast: 11 voices
Draft: all 16 (using about 60% of the one core it's running on)
- u-he
- 30222 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
- KVRist
- 396 posts since 29 Aug, 2006 from Eta Carinae
99% of computer audio software owners are insecure.
Or, maybe they're not...
Or, maybe they're not...
Jim Hurley - experimental music
Windows 10 Pro (20H2 19042.662); i9-9900K@5.1GHz;
Cakewalk; Adam Audio A8X; Axiom 61
Windows 10 Pro (20H2 19042.662); i9-9900K@5.1GHz;
Cakewalk; Adam Audio A8X; Axiom 61
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- KVRian
- 814 posts since 18 May, 2007 from Berlin
In 50% of all cases, the opposite of a fact is also true.
- KVRAF
- 6210 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
Damn, is there smoke pouring out of that thing?gray_ wrote:I've had no problems with i5-2500k overclocked to 4.4GHz.
sketches... http://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
- KVRist
- 396 posts since 29 Aug, 2006 from Eta Carinae
When I was overclocking (in my case an i7-2600K) I had my finger on the bottom of the heatsink.sqigls wrote:Damn, is there smoke pouring out of that thing?gray_ wrote:I've had no problems with i5-2500k overclocked to 4.4GHz.
While running an Intel Burn-in test at 4.8GHz, the CPU temperature got to 80 degrees C, but was still stable.
To my finger, the heatsink was warm, but no way was it hot.
I decided to keep things at 4.4 GHz to stay under 72 degrees C always.
If you go with the new liquid cooling fans you could probably reach 5 GHz and be stable - but there is a certain luck-of-the-draw in getting a magic CPU.
Your choice of memory will also make an impact on the overall performance.
And pump noise is different from fan noise - plus there may be some long-term issues with liquid cooling and some bad disaster scenarios. The thermal mass of the liquid coolers is small, so if the pump fails it will overheat easily.
Obligatory stat- 37.8% of KVRers would rather post than make music.
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 20 Apr, 2006
Here are my results
DAW: MacPro 2008 2 x Quadcore 2,8 GHz
Cubase 6.05, Project at 44,1 KHz and 24 Bit
Buffer Size: 256 samples
max. Notes playing same time (triggered from cubase) without crackling, using INIT Alpha with 16 Voices
draft: 16
fast: 12
great: 7
divine: 5
this isn't bad for a Mac build eary 2008, what do you think?
DAW: MacPro 2008 2 x Quadcore 2,8 GHz
Cubase 6.05, Project at 44,1 KHz and 24 Bit
Buffer Size: 256 samples
max. Notes playing same time (triggered from cubase) without crackling, using INIT Alpha with 16 Voices
draft: 16
fast: 12
great: 7
divine: 5
this isn't bad for a Mac build eary 2008, what do you think?
- KVRAF
- 1617 posts since 11 Dec, 2008 from Minneapolis
Oddly enough the number of voices I get is linked to how high the MIDI notes are, so I did C3 + the next n MIDI notes
2.4ghz Core2Duo MacBook, Live 8
Mode || Buffer [ 128 ] [ 256 ] [ 512+ ]
Draft: [ 16 ] [ 16 ] [ 16 ]
Fast: [ 9 ] [ 10 ] [ 10 ]
Great: [ 4 ] [ 6 ] [ 6 ]
Divine: [ 3 ] [ 3 ] [ 4 ]
IMO there really are sounds nothing else does well enough to sound 'right', and I figure that list in my head might expand with more CPU so seeing results is really informative. Definitely don't find Diva unusable though.
2.4ghz Core2Duo MacBook, Live 8
Mode || Buffer [ 128 ] [ 256 ] [ 512+ ]
Draft: [ 16 ] [ 16 ] [ 16 ]
Fast: [ 9 ] [ 10 ] [ 10 ]
Great: [ 4 ] [ 6 ] [ 6 ]
Divine: [ 3 ] [ 3 ] [ 4 ]
IMO there really are sounds nothing else does well enough to sound 'right', and I figure that list in my head might expand with more CPU so seeing results is really informative. Definitely don't find Diva unusable though.
