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Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:06 pm

hakey wrote:I know a supersaw of some kind (JP8000?) has been mentioned in connection with a Diva digital oscillator.

Fwiw (which problably in't much), I'd be interested in a nod toward some of the truly "vintage" digital/analogue hybrid synths - Prophet VS, PPG Wave, ESQ80 and the like - in Diva.

A vector oscillator, say, would open up some new sonic territory and would perhaps be in keeping with the Dinosaur Impersonating idea.

I suggested that way back when Diva was only a myth

Most people thought it would be a bad idea since it doesn't really fit into the Diva concept. I don't think so!

It would be really nice to have some simple (maybe lofi sounding) wavetables for the digital osc (If there will be one).
Nothing as complex as the Zebra oscs, just a few wavetables with a simple (modulatable) position knob

The SQ-80, the DW8000 and some other synths are perfect examples of how good digital oscs + analog filters (well, not really analog in Divas case) can sound. In fact, they are my favorite synths.
I even wish more hardware synths would have digital oscs and analog filters. It would cut down the costs, would be more flexible in many areas etc.

Cheers
Dennis

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:09 pm

Yeah, hmmm... I haven't ever been keen on Prophet VS and PPG Wave. The SQ80 would rather be it.

Nevertheless, I believe that those waveforms are impossible to license. We would have to e.g. resample the SQ80 (or D-50 or...) wave by wave, and it would still sound different. Not sure if I want to wade through that.

(if anyone from Roland is reading - I'd like to get in touch with someone who can actually make the decision to license waveforms from legacy products such as the D-50 - we might have something interesting in return)

Urs

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:28 pm

Urs wrote:Yeah, hmmm... I haven't ever been keen on Prophet VS and PPG Wave. The SQ80 would rather be it.

That would do!

Nevertheless, I believe that those waveforms are impossible to license. We would have to e.g. resample the SQ80 (or D-50 or...) wave by wave, and it would still sound different.

SQ8L is reckoned to be a pretty close emu. I wonder how the dev sourced the wavetables?

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:36 pm

It wouldn't really be that bad if you don't get the original waveforms (it would be über-nice if you'd get them though). Maybe you could just come up with some unique wavetables or license something from Galbanum (I'm sure they would do that).

I don't want to seem ungrateful or something by the way! I love Diva and all your other products (as you probably know

) but I just think a wavetable osc would improve Diva even more

Cheers
Dennis

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:37 pm

What Dennis said - both bits.

urosh · Post by **urosh** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:45 pm

hakey wrote:SQ8L is reckoned to be a pretty close emu. I wonder how the dev sourced the wavetables?

He stayed below radar maybe? Owner of those wavetables is Creative (most probably).

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:55 pm

urosh wrote:
hakey wrote:SQ8L is reckoned to be a pretty close emu. I wonder how the dev sourced the wavetables?
He stayed below radar maybe? Owner of those wavetables is Creative (most probably).

Out of interest - how long does that kind of stuff remain in copyright? 70 years?

David Else · Post by **David Else** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:16 pm

...This is crucial for the sound of the transients of analogue synths, which we have improved greatly for Diva 1.1

This is very exciting! I am hoping 1.1 is the version that is due to be public beta any time now?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:35 pm

thermal wrote:
...This is crucial for the sound of the transients of analogue synths, which we have improved greatly for Diva 1.1
This is very exciting! I am hoping 1.1 is the version that is due to be public beta any time now?

Yes.

I'm still spending 2 thirds of my time answering emails and stuff

- but thankfully Clemens got into some bugfixes of "my" code. My remaining third is dedicated to the improvement of the MIDI Learn thing, without which we can neither go beta, nor update Tyrell etc.

Urs

Bathrobe · Post by **Bathrobe** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:58 pm

Could it be that 0,5cents on the Finetuneknob in the Tuning section actually changes the pitch by 1 cent?

I noticed that a setting of +16 shows +32cents on a tuner.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:53 pm

Bathrobe wrote:Could it be that 0,5cents on the Finetuneknob in the Tuning section actually changes the pitch by 1 cent?

I noticed that a setting of +16 shows +32cents on a tuner.

Could be

HiEnergy · Post by **HiEnergy** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:23 pm

Some music of mine with Diva involved in this thread:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=345979

Please comment in the other thread.

HiEnergy · Post by **HiEnergy** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:44 pm

(music updated, see other thread)

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:44 am

Urs, another e-mail for ya, you probably already know this but the midilearn issue happens in SONAR X1 (uh-oh!) also. I fired up v.585 yesterday and sure enuf, the existing midi learns were broken and I couldn't assign new ones.

All that e-mail must be why the big guys usually don't work so hard to please their base as you do. Don't think it goes unnoticed

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:17 am

Gonga,

I'm going to ad a "convert old MIDI assignments" thing before we release 1.1.

I'm stunned as to why it wouldn't work in Sonar or other hosts. The basic principle hasn't changed, just the code was moved a bit. I'll have to think about it.

Grrrrr.

Urs

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KVR Audio

The long DIVA thread