Does anyone NOT like Diva?

[Bronto Scorpio]

Regarding CPU usage. I have a really ancient PC and can only play most presets monophonically but that's not a problem here. Most host introduced something called "freeze" something like 10 years ago. Time to use that feature
I have to use it on almost all tracks anyway....I was never able to run more than 1 VST + effects at a time so it doesn't really make a difference to me.

Cheers
Dennis

Dennis, such a talented guy like you in terms of creating sounds and seeking for a new world of sounds deserves to have the proper tools for it. You have to get a new PC soon and I am herby officially donating 100 Euros so you can start planning. This is no KVR crap, this is for real and I will stand by my word....

Thanks Simon! Thank you so much for the kind words and the offer! It really means a lot coming from you! But I can't accept that! Sorry! 100€ is a lot of money for me and it would feel wrong to take that money!

Thanks again!
People are always way to good to me!

Cheers
Dennis

[aciddose]

sync isn't really that hard to do.

shy are we talking complex stuff like soft-sync using a window or just plain old zero-phase hard-sync like a sub-oscillator?

or something between like the standard 2nd osc sync with lfo modulation?

[aciddose]

Artifacts? Sweep stepping/zippering? Lack of smoothness?

actually that tends to be the issue. only it's a lack of those features that software seems to have the problem with.

[ClubHo]

DIVA takes up way too much CPU.
But I have a confession.
I'm trying to run it at 96k.
Damn it. I just wish I was happy working in 48k.
So now its upgrade time.

[Shy]

Sendy: the waveform sounds like it turned to mush, definition and brightness are lost, and it just sounds like a strange toyish approximation of a real analog sync effect. If you're really interested, feel free to send me a PM and I'll send you some sample later. I'm not posting samples here again, too many trolls.

aciddose: just hard-sync as well.

[aciddose]

weird. i can't explain that. it must have mutant oscillators or something.

what some synthesizers do is they'll just apply a "sync" between two oscs at the right frequency, but the phase won't line up. some also will have sample-accurate but not sub-sample accurate, so those get a lot of aliasing.

"mushy" though is unfortunately way too subjective. pm me a clip.

[Sampleconstruct]

Regarding CPU usage. I have a really ancient PC and can only play most presets monophonically but that's not a problem here. Most host introduced something called "freeze" something like 10 years ago. Time to use that feature
I have to use it on almost all tracks anyway....I was never able to run more than 1 VST + effects at a time so it doesn't really make a difference to me.

Cheers
Dennis

Dennis, such a talented guy like you in terms of creating sounds and seeking for a new world of sounds deserves to have the proper tools for it. You have to get a new PC soon and I am herby officially donating 100 Euros so you can start planning. This is no KVR crap, this is for real and I will stand by my word....

Thanks Simon! Thank you so much for the kind words and the offer! It really means a lot coming from you! But I can't accept that! Sorry! 100€ is a lot of money for me and it would feel wrong to take that money!

Thanks again!
People are always way to good to me!

Cheers
Dennis

Too bad, anyhow if you change your mind my offer stands, it's time for you to overcome technical (thus artistical) limitations caused by economic cirumstances!

[pdxindy]

even when making a "digital" lofi production a line od Smooth Diva running through it can gel the mix & overall sound really well!

the track still sounds Lo Fi & Digital & harsh but not thin


Subz

Indeed! the contrast brings out the best of both!

also, Diva can get various sorts of hifi lofi which adds its own character...

http://draigathar.org/sounds/Diva51.mp3

[hakey]

the guy from Hamburg-Audio.de in this German video - http://www.musotalk.de/video/u-he-diva- ... der-woche/

Any German speakers care to translate (I think it's the guy with the funny goatee that we're interested in)?

[VitaminD]

I think the existence of this thread is an answer enough...

The scary (good) thing is.. U-he ideas and products seems to 'improve' over time.. and they aren't finished designing and creating audio products..

[ariston]

the guy from Hamburg-Audio.de in this German video - http://www.musotalk.de/video/u-he-diva- ... der-woche/

Any German speakers care to translate (I think it's the guy with the funny goatee that we're interested in)?

He's just spouting an ill-informed opinion about how Diva's code is obviously not fully optimized. He's trying to bolster this feeble opinion by saying that we've been hearing "great" oscillators and filters in VAs for about 10 years now, so he doesn't see why Diva should be so CPU-intensive....


Mind you, I don't know shit about programming (aside from programming Yahtzee in Pascal about 25 years ago), so I don't know if this is true or not. He just doesn't say anything to back up his assertion, so it comes across like a sad attempt to bad-mouth a competitor.

[braj]

Dort singen's:
"Dreh' dich nicht um, schau, schau,
der Kommissar geht um!

[Gonga]

Can someone tell me, how is Diva's osc sync deficient compared to a real analog synth? I have access to analog stuff, but none of it with sync.

Very deficient.

I disagree very, very strongly. All of U-He's synths produce the smoothest VA syncs I've ever heard, and the quality is analog at least up to the highest frequencies, truly indistinguishable to the ear in any practical sense (though my hearing now falls off above 15,000 Hz). Diva's sync sweep sounds just as smooth as my Voyager's, and I have tested this extensively. Diva's sync can produce many more sounds than any of the analogs I used to play, because she is much more flexible in design. If (when?) U-He adds Oberheim oscillators and filters, I will have my old FVS-1 back, including the voice differentiation, except it will be much more flexible, convenient and a better value by far.

I would agree that Diva sounds different, and that she still has minimal aliasing at the highest frequencies, but to say she is very deficient is misleading now that the differences have been reduced to almost inaudible.

[digitalboytn]

the guy from Hamburg-Audio.de in this German video - http://www.musotalk.de/video/u-he-diva- ... der-woche/

Any German speakers care to translate (I think it's the guy with the funny goatee that we're interested in)?

Hey you German guys can't even speak your own language !

What that dude's saying is that if you have an open mind and you couldn't give a toss if a synth is digital or analog and if you are interested in a synth that sounds really musical on any level - you should check out Diva...

He's also saying for all of the analog snobs who are hanging out for that extra 1% of pure analog bliss,to get your soldering irons out and rip those old discrete boards apart and then start stickin' 'em all together

(Lovely by the way - built a couple myself back when Noah and I were on the ark)

Make sure you get all the wires right and always check the voltages 'cos some of the old voice chips are getting rare and a little 'spensive these days...

Them tune them all up and you'll be almost good to go...

Well that's after you've crammed all the spaghetti back into the cases..

The dude concludes the show by saying that if we want a synth that really does transcend many of the barriers that are an obvious impediment in the analog world,then we should rejoice in the fact that digital PSpice modelling in Diva allows us stunning sounding hybrid realities that were once only the thing of dreams

[JoeCat]

IMHO:
Even if DIVA did not advance analog emulation sonically, I think it would still be a great and popular synth because of it's interface (I don't mean the pretty knobs). The structure - whereby the oscillator, filter, and envelope sections of the distinctly-emulated synth models can be swapped - invites great experimentation. It's fun to use.