MUX does not automatically 'limit' its output, which is a good thing as you stay in full control over the audio. The thing you noticed can happen anywhere in the audio path (also when using non MUX stuff), it depends on the actual audio signals. You need to control the levels at the relevant points in the audio stream.Crackbaby wrote:Unless im mistaken, when a mux's output is overloaded you get some pretty nasty (or sweet sounding) distortion. Most plugins i know allows you to go above 0 without that. While i understand the importance of having your decibels under control, is this something that could be looked at?
MUX Vst : What do you need?
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- KVRAF
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- 13860 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
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- KVRAF
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Thx, even if I don't think, that especially Novation will take care about this...mutools wrote: I tried MUX in Podium and see what you mean. I double-checked things and i think it's on Podium's side. I also think the same issue is also on AutoMap's side, and also in NI Maschine. I'll soon email Zynewave, Novation and NI about this.
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
Exactly my thought of NITrancit wrote:Thx, even if I don't think, that especially Novation will take care about this...mutools wrote: I tried MUX in Podium and see what you mean. I double-checked things and i think it's on Podium's side. I also think the same issue is also on AutoMap's side, and also in NI Maschine. I'll soon email Zynewave, Novation and NI about this.
But considering how this product solves several issues with Maschine i wouldn't be surprised if they would ask for licensing it. If it was possible to add support for audio/midi streams between mux instances you would solve Maschine's non-existent side-chain capabilities(!)Just so you know, the fix for Maschine you made with mux vsti works flawlessly!
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- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
JO, I'm having problems with MUX LFO modulating Oxium synth.
It freezes the Host windows in Reaper, Studio One, Orion and Live so far.
I'm using LFO to Parameter Event Generator to Oxium
It freezes the Host windows in Reaper, Studio One, Orion and Live so far.
I'm using LFO to Parameter Event Generator to Oxium
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
Ah.. that happened to me too before in live. trying it now, it happened again. If i don't have the GUI of Oxium showing, it wont crash so it could be some graphical issue with Oxium.
Crash in EnergyXT as well. It seems like cpu goes up to 29/30% in both live and xt .. and in reaper
Probably some limit in oxium
I tried just messing with automation in EnergyXT (the host i find most stable and fastest to boot
) and it made oxium sluggish as well. I managed to stop before it froze though. It could be because the LFO in mux is at a much higher rate increasing the pressure on the graphics.
Another thing that supports it's oxium is that i've successfully have used the LFO in muxpatches with Charlatan and Mausynth without any sluggishness or crashes.
Crash in EnergyXT as well. It seems like cpu goes up to 29/30% in both live and xt .. and in reaper
Probably some limit in oxiumI tried just messing with automation in EnergyXT (the host i find most stable and fastest to boot
) and it made oxium sluggish as well. I managed to stop before it froze though. It could be because the LFO in mux is at a much higher rate increasing the pressure on the graphics.Another thing that supports it's oxium is that i've successfully have used the LFO in muxpatches with Charlatan and Mausynth without any sluggishness or crashes.
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
Even simple automation in EnergyXT without the use of Mux causes Oxium to go sluggish. Good thing there's three lfo's
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- KVRAF
- 3142 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
I like the fact that there's distortion in the audio chain, I first noticed it while co-creating a Mux with a great deal of help from AndreasD
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
Using 8 wobble to control parameters in Diversion can cause quite some sluggishness as well! I guess VST isn't really optimized for it.
Not that it's a huge problem as i won't have the GUI open as i tweak the mux, but if you don't save often enough and suffer from a megaslugg, then you're out of luck
If you click the green circle to turn off the vsti or mux, then the slugg is gone, so that could be a trick when creating lfo-heavy mux's.
Not that it's a huge problem as i won't have the GUI open as i tweak the mux, but if you don't save often enough and suffer from a megaslugg, then you're out of luck
If you click the green circle to turn off the vsti or mux, then the slugg is gone, so that could be a trick when creating lfo-heavy mux's.
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
Xils lab seems to have issues with GUI design. The Synthix has huge problems still for me. I will try also Xils 3 and PolyKB and see.
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
When i open up an initialized mux and want to build a synth with the built in modules, how do i increase the polyphony? I thought i would figure this out sooner or later but .......... 
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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Is there even any limit on the number of voices you can play at the same time? I never encountered any. I guess your computer is the limit...
In the oscillator window there is a Fatness parameter at the bottom. Not sure if you mean that...
In the oscillator window there is a Fatness parameter at the bottom. Not sure if you mean that...
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
nah, when i add oscillator and connect it to the output i only get one voice ie monophonic. I've tried now using the polysynth which itself is a mux and it is polyphonic. But if i build an identical mux myself, i only get monophonic 
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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You mean, you can't play a chord?
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- KVRAF
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- 13860 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Indeed the PolySynth is key to create polyphonic synth patches.
See http://www.mutools.com/mulab/docs/polysynth.html
See http://www.mutools.com/mulab/docs/polysynth.html
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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Does that mean that otherwise the Mux is only monophonic, like a Mini Moog? I wonder if we are really talking about the same thing here. Maybe multitimbral rather than polyphonic?