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I have note info plus automation in a clip connected to Alchemy contained in a MUX which is then saved as a preset, should I expect the clip to contain the VST and the patch I was using at the time to be saved too or am I just being a daft old cnut ?

I didn't want to ask for fear of ridicule or be told to RTFM :hihi:

Loving Mulab :tu:

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I'm not entirely sure what you mean...
I just checked a MUX containing a VST (ACE in this case), created a sequence, named the sequence and just dropped it in the browser as MuClip.

I quit Mulab and started it again, dropped the MuClip into the composer, acknowleded the Update of the Target module and it played as saved.

I did not save any MUX at all.

To summarize: The Mux is saved in it's current state at the moment you save the Muclip. Saving the Mux for other uses doesn't hurt though.

Some more experiments:
To add automation to that clip i assigned Cutoff of ACE to Meta Param1 of the MUX. Further i dropped the MUX onto the track header where the sequence sits. All this makes cutoff accessable in the piano roll editor. Add cutoff automation to the sequence and save as Muclip.

When loading the clip this time in a new session, the MUX is not in a rack, it sits in the Session MUX connected to the Master rack. (is that intentionally?)
Interestingly, you can drag the MUX into any rack and all plays well.

Does this help or do i talk rubbish?

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Great help thanks, did exactly as you described and it worked then I saved another one and then I get the cant find plug error even when vst is in a mux.

I think all my confusion stems from that bug so just wait for an update.

Also I will study the stuff about automation you wrote as currently i can only get automation to record on a seperate track and then have to merge them ?

Thanks for your time.

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why would anyone ridicule you? :?

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> DiGiT < wrote:why would anyone ridicule you? :?
Music Idolatry :) they don't like it up them !

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im not sure i get it.

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mmm dont know why i typed that, bit worse for a drink , must have meant something las night :smack:
thanks.

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Is it possible to put a Musampla inside a Muclip and save it so midi, automation and a Musampla loop can be played as a clip ?

The one where it chops the loop and plays in tempo sync.

Can't seem to do it.

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leggie wrote:Is it possible to put a Musampla inside a Muclip and save it so midi, automation and a Musampla loop can be played as a clip ?

The one where it chops the loop and plays in tempo sync.

Can't seem to do it.
Yes when a sequence part is playing a MuSampla and you save it as a MuClip, then any used samples are automatically saved with the MuClip.

At what point are you stuck?

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Am I right in thinking a MuClip simply a pattern containing any song data?

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sl23 wrote:Am I right in thinking a MuClip simply a pattern containing any song data?
MuClip = Sequence data + sound data!

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mutools wrote:
leggie wrote:Is it possible to put a Musampla inside a Muclip and save it so midi, automation and a Musampla loop can be played as a clip ?

The one where it chops the loop and plays in tempo sync.

Can't seem to do it.
Yes when a sequence part is playing a MuSampla and you save it as a MuClip, then any used samples are automatically saved with the MuClip.

At what point are you stuck?
Thanks, I'm stuck at getting the sliced up sample that automatically happens when I drag it to a composer lane.

I can play samples from a rack within a MUX got that bit just the slicing which I so desire :)

Edit to explain..

Hoping I can get sliced up sample, automation, sequence and maybe some 1 shot audio clip type of stuff all in 1 Muclip.

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leggie wrote:Hoping I can get sliced up sample, automation, sequence and maybe some 1 shot audio clip type of stuff all in 1 Muclip.
A MuClip = a single sequence part + its sound.

If you are creative you can use multiple MIDI channels and a channel splitter in the connected MUX so to sequence different sounds within that single sequence. Please experiment, it's fun and enlightening :)

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So a MuClip can only contain a single sequence? I was thinking it was more like Reasons blocks?

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wow dude didnt jo already say multiple times what a clip consisted of?

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