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jsd · Post by **jsd** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:59 am

I've only played around with Monark for 10 minutes or so but WOW. Sounds fantastic. Subbed out the bass sound in the song I was working on with a Monark bass and it's just massive. Maybe too massive!

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:07 pm

Finally somebody said it

Bernard Sumner, New Order wrote:The Monark is my new go-to synth for analog sounds

FiascoAndretti · Post by **FiascoAndretti** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:23 pm

hate to be a broken record but the bass sounds from this thing are incredibly warm and fat. Pretty impressed actually.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:18 pm

Gold star for using "fat" instead of "phat"

Stopani · Post by **Stopani** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:17 pm

What do you guys think the chances of a Monark Demo actually being made available?

jsd · Post by **jsd** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:22 pm

Stopani wrote:What do you guys think the chances of a Monark Demo actually being made available?

Given their previous track record with Reaktor instrument (eg: Razor) demos - not gonna happen.

jonahs · Post by **jonahs** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:44 pm

If you want poly build a MIDI voice assigner / splitter effect in Reaktor, MAX or Logic's environment and use monark on multiple tracks with the same preset slightly tweaked. If you're doing simple cords you can just transpose the MIDI that goes to the other tracks so you can still use one note to trigger it. Adjust panning or use phase adjustment plugs as needed.

Anyway, it's got a nice, big, stupid interface which is nice. I like to sample it and load it in absynth.

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:18 pm

I have to take back what I said about Reaktor now, the updates that NI made to it have obviously changed things. Monark sounds amazing, and I think it will be a perfect compliment to Diva similar to how U-NO-LX is, considering how they both use less CPU and targets a specific sound.

www.anthonywebster.com/audio/monarp.mp3

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:32 pm

Stopani wrote:What do you guys think the chances of a Monark Demo actually being made available?

On a scale of one to ten? Zero

fluxmind · Post by **fluxmind** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:53 pm

Ingonator wrote:So for i did not find a way to make the Monark poly modifications work properly but i'll try again.

Ingo

try setting Gate midi upper limit to 1 from 127 in its properties, you will lose velocity, but neither monophonic version was having it

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:57 pm

djanthonyw wrote:the updates that NI made to it have obviously changed things.

They did no updates to the Reaktor Core modules since Reaktor 5 hit the streets over 6 years ago. Ergo, no changes in "sound". Just takes knowledge to do things as great as Monark does, utilizing Reaktor Core.

This is what I've been talking for quite some time now.

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:03 pm

I thought they made custom modules that are locked in Monark?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:07 pm

They are all made with Reaktor Core. Nothing custom about it. Just two big Core macros are locked - the filter and the amp+envelopes.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:08 pm

fluxmind wrote:
Ingonator wrote:So for i did not find a way to make the Monark poly modifications work properly but i'll try again.

Ingo
try setting Gate midi upper limit to 1 from 127 in its properties, you will lose velocity, but neither monophonic version was having it

Thanks. Now the Poly modification seems to sound normal.

Anyway by diconnecting the two complex modules from "PK" and "GT" you seem to loose features in the Page B settings (e.g. note priority). Anyway for poly sounds the note priority does not seem to be really important.

In those complex modules while those seem to be totally open i did not find anything where i could get the same result than using the "Note Pitch" module.

Maybe i'll work on a Poly version of my free patches, at least for the patches where this makes sense. I'll also try to post the procedure (with mentioning fluxmind of course) to my thread.

The modified procedure seems to be like this now (thanks to fluxmind again):

1. Enable editing mode, Go to "Panel/Monark/Monark", disconnect from "Volt" cell PK, GT
2. Create "Note Pitch" and "Gate" and connect "Note Pitch" to PK and Gate to GT
3. Go into the "Function" tab of the "Gate" module (right-click and "Properties") and set "Upper Limit (MIDI) to 1 (instead of 127).
4. Still at the same place disconnect "Volt" cell from "Out 1", create "Out Port" and "Audio Voice Combiner" and Connect "Audio Voice Combiner" output to Out 1 and Out 2 and then Connect "Volt" cell output to Audio Voice Combiner input
5. Now go to "Panel/Monark" disconnect Out 2 and connect that Out 2 to Second free Out
6. Go back to "Panel/Monark/Moanrk" and disable "Mono" in "Volt" cells properties
7. Go to back to "panel" click on Monark name and in Properties page enable as many voices as you want (or how many your CPU could handle...)
8. Go to file and save ensemble as Monark Poly, because I don't now how to make a switch for mono/poly yet, so you will have 2 versions, one normal monophonic and one Polyphonic
A few features like e.g. page B settings don't seem to be available now.

Here are two screenshots showing the modifications:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532 ... rk%201.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532 ... rk%202.png

Ingo

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:55 pm

Using two of my Monark patches I just created an audio demo using one instance of the poly modification (see last post) and one instance with a Lead sound:

Monark - Horny Viola Part II (+FXs)

FXs used: ValhallaDSP ValhallaVintageVerb, ERS Dimension D Chorus
patches used: "Viola IW" (slightly modified for polyphonic use), "Horn IW"

Here is an older demo where i use 3 instances of Monark to create "one finger" chords (same patches used):

Monark - Horny Viola Part I (+FXs)

additionally to the FXs of the other demo the Arts Acoustic Big Stone Phase Shifter and the Pitch MIDI effect from Ableton Live were used in this.

UPDATE:
I just added the procedure for a polyphonic Monark (of course with mentioning fluxmind who had the idea) and the new demo at my own Monark thread:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 09#5318409

More will hopefully follow and will be published there.

Ingo

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