KVR Audio

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Tue May 28, 2013 3:56 pm

trimph1 wrote:Can anyone tell me just how bad the delay actually is?

Are we talking about a matter of a few seconds here?

To be quite honest I've never noticed this issue no matter what I've been recording. If it's audio or MIDI and no matter how many FX I can't say I've said "Dammit there's that PDC issue again!"

Sometimes I wonder if the issue is overblown.

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Tue May 28, 2013 3:58 pm

robojam wrote:I've never noticed this issue no matter what I've been recording. If it's audio or MIDI and no matter how many FX I can't say I've said "Dammit there's that PDC issue again!"

+1

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Tue May 28, 2013 4:24 pm

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neverenoughfunk · Post by **neverenoughfunk** » Tue May 28, 2013 4:31 pm

to the OP... i think you should be a quaility control expert... and leave the music alone... i have never seen an individual that "complains" as much as you... nothing seems to work for "you"... you should bring your services to these companies as a quaility control expert... basically... show them how it is done!!!

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Tue May 28, 2013 4:32 pm

TheoM wrote:Ahh i made the stupid video and it's 20 minutes and you tube max is 15! I can't upload it and i can't just chop arbitrarily it won't make sense!~ i'll bloody do it again, sigh. I know what to aim for now and what points to cover anyway.. BRB

Split it into two mate.

My trusty spreadsheet tells me each segment should be 10mins each

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Tue May 28, 2013 4:41 pm

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chroma · Post by **chroma** » Tue May 28, 2013 5:12 pm

in live 8, you could also reduce the plugin buffer to 32, which was separate from the audio buffer. they removed that for live 9 halfway through the beta though, not sure why - we were hoping that it was because they were implementing proper ADC, but no such luck. i think there is still a way to set it from the preferences file though (i haven't upgraded to live 9 yet, so can't check).... that reduces the effect for VST plugins. M4L plugins always use the audio buffer and aren't helped though.

Davias · Post by **Davias** » Tue May 28, 2013 5:14 pm

Theo > Did you try my suggestion to get rid of the pdc ? I would like to hear your thoughts about it.

Cheers.

DHR53 · Post by **DHR53** » Tue May 28, 2013 5:17 pm

Hmmm... I have long accepted the cpu requirements in Live are way higher than Logic, one of the reasons I sold my license back in the 4.0 days. But I purchased Live 9.0 intro just for fun, to take a wack at it occasionally so I have done some stuff recently... that being said I guess I've never done anything complex enough to hit this limitation. Or notice it. I'm compelled to try and see if I can do so! Ha!

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Tue May 28, 2013 5:23 pm

DHR53 wrote:that being said I guess I've never done anything complex enough to hit this limitation. Or notice it. I'm compelled to try and see if I can do so! Ha!

That was the point I was making - with a bunch of different approaches I have never found a problem. I too assumed it was something that would only manifest in a very complex setup beyond what the vast majority of people would do.

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Tue May 28, 2013 5:27 pm

What about the individual track delay, this was designed for these issues I believe.

Its never bothered me anyway, I guess it depends on your workflow. I certainly dont need millisecond accurate timing.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Tue May 28, 2013 5:33 pm

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Ableton, all plugins cause *automation* pdc issues, very good discussion within.. lots of info!

Ableton, all plugins cause automation pdc issues, very good discussion within.. lots of info!