Zebra Oscillator Retrigger- Random positions?

[grrr1231]

Hello

Lately I have been using Zebra2.5 and ZebraHZ ( the latest versions) to create some kick drums. However it appears (on an FFT) and sounds like the oscillators are not re-triggering at the same phase position on each note. Voice Drift is switched off and oscillator re-trigger is switched on.

This is especially obvious when I layer two instances of Zebra with both set to re-trigger the oscillators and with voice drift off, or when I layer with a drum sample. It does not occur with two separate oscillators within the same instance of Zebra.

Am I missing something?

If oscillators are not re-triggering in the same position, what is the point of the oscillator phase knob?

I would dearly love a solution to this problem so I don't have to use FM8 for my kicks

[Howard]

1) We could check out those patches you're using (to see if anything else is influencing oscillator phases)

2) Do you really need more than one instance to create a kick drum?

[grrr1231]

Hi Howard,

Thank you for your reply

No, one instance of Zebra and one oscillator will suffice (I used two instances just for testing the problem), but its when I layer Zebra with a sample where I can hear and see phasing of different frequencies on each different beat.

When I bounce down the Zebra track the phased frequencies remain the same every beat.

(For example with the default Zebra 'Initialize' patch with re-trigger on, smooth attacks off and voice drift off, played at fundamental 30HZ, played alongside a kick sample).

Its extremely subtle and I'm being almost pedantic (my apologies!), but I though it worth a mention.

Is Zebra meant to re-trigger the oscillators at exactly the same position?

[ZebraTamer]

Might be "MIDI-Jitter" - some sequencers tend to apply it within certain computer setups. In other words the host software isn't able to reproduce the midi-data exactly..

While I get noticeable time offsets with Cubase 5, I get almost no jitter with FL Studio. You could try a demo version..

Zebra - don't blame it - tame it..

[grrr1231]

Thanks for the reply.

Its interesting. After some testing the problem has not only occurred with Zebra, but a couple of other synths that aren't specifically created for drums (Z3ta+ 2, Sylenth1, Massive).

However, the drum specific synths such as the Waldorf Attack, Sonic Charge uTonic and fxpansion Tremor have no problem.

By the way, my DAW is Studio One 32bit on Win 7 PC. Same results occur with Cubase 6.5 and FL Studio. Same results on my Mac too.

[mcnoone]

If you have some lfo or mseg set to some filter or other. Make sure that lfo / mseg is also set to retrigger.

[abique]

Can I hear you kicks? I wonder how cool they are