Precision Compressor / Limiter now available on T-RackS CS + AAX compatibility

[sounddesigner]

Understandable, sounddesigner. I have much shorter answers, though, which may or may not be unfortunate...

1. I believe that you'd be safe with Authorization Manager since that is also safest to get back if you need it directly (at http://www.ikmultimedia.com/authorizationmanager without installing an associated product from your User Area). Custom Shop and other components (though you probably did say no to QuickTime during the install already, note that that one is purely optional if you are not using T-RackS Standalone and furthermore not importing certain media types) are another story. You may want to consult the folks at support for those. If you removed Authorization Manager and were asked for authorization again, you could download it again and even the reauthorization would likely reuse an authorization instead of burning a new one anyway so it would be pretty safe to test regardless.

2. I appreciate your suggestion, obviously you know that's not how it works now but I can put forth this suggestion as I typically do. I see you do like the credit system, but we're also considering more options at least for people looking to use their local currency instead and I hope any change (if any occurs) accommodates both because of the deep discount you can get every day with Gear Credit packs in larger quantities (and JamPoints making that an even better deal for existing customers).

Thank you Peter for your response and i hope IK change some policies, all i can do is hope. I'll contact tech support to find out what all i can uninstall/not install with your software. All i know is my demo's are starting to time out and i don't want some of the IK plugins to leave my plugin folder and am reaching for my wallet. Very few Native plugins have me feeling like this. I don't like the NFR policy thus a relatively low limit to how much i invest in IK products must be set until a policy change occurs, but i also feel the hardwork that IK put into these plugins should be rewarded with some purchases, especially to help ensure future plugin releases of this high quality and better. My i7 will look alot better with these type algorithms running on it. I really do hope the Custom Shop NFR policy is seriously considered and overturned and that the software download file is slimmed down, cause IK has a good thing going here now, why shoot yourselves in the foot while going after the competition? Don't mess up a good opportunity and counter reaching your full potential. You guys have a amazing and mind-blowing price/quality/versatility ratio going on with T-Racks .

Well that's it with the complaints from me, some of these plugins are truly masterpieces. The 33609 emu is my favorite but also loving the buss compressor (Has that silkyness i loved about duende Buss) and British channel is nice to, the tape echo seems useful as well. Quite a few nice ones i had some tuff decissions to make with this whole situation. Again GREAT JOB IK!


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[kylen]

Any renewed interest in the three models that were reduced from 120 to 100 credits each? Those are quite nice modules too.

What good does it do us to reduce these from 120 to 100 credits? You still have to buy 120 credits to purchase one, as there is no way to buy only 100 credits. More IK gimmickry.

BTW, your website is down again, thus CS doesn't work, thus I couldn't try or buy these plugins right now even if I wanted to.

Cheers,
Eddie

Couldn't I just add a 20 and 80 jam points card to my cart and purchase the 100 points that way? Then apply that to the purchase of Precision or Bus Comp for 100 points?

This whole Custom Sh** thing is really beginning to irritate, I've spent about 10 minutes demoing and the rest fooling around with CS. Hopefully all the dsp developers will go start a new company (called "The Plugin Shop") so I can just use paypal to buy something and download it. The rest of you guys can have the 'iTunes-ish' Custom Shop...brainless...

[zentatonic]

I guess IK could offer jampoints and credit-type incentives from within the CS environment and just sell plugins at a flat, slightly higher "standard" price for anyone who can't be arsed to figure the CS out.

[maxxxter]

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[macmurphy]

Why does every IK thread degenerate into a CS and Jampoint discussion?
It's REALLY boring.

i couldn't agree more. talk about luxury problems...

[zentatonic]

As I said, I can take CS or leave it. It is what it is, and I'd rather use that than the UAD dongle system. Especially for this quality and price.

Imagine if the IK plugs used iLok. lol.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Any renewed interest in the three models that were reduced from 120 to 100 credits each? Those are quite nice modules too.

What good does it do us to reduce these from 120 to 100 credits? You still have to buy 120 credits to purchase one, as there is no way to buy only 100 credits. More IK gimmickry.

BTW, your website is down again, thus CS doesn't work, thus I couldn't try or buy these plugins right now even if I wanted to.

Cheers,
Eddie

Wow, never have I seen such ire from lowering prices. You can by 5 20-credit packs (you just don't get a further break on the pricing like you do with larger purchases) or you can get a heck of a deal on a 200 credit pack if you are interested in two of them AND I've already stated that we're looking into the option of using your own currency to pay for the models. But I'm pretty sure you are aware of that and simply wanted to point out yet another way we are out to get you... Next time we should leave them, like I said I feel they are still underpriced anyway, and if nobody cares about the lowered prices that's another good reason to not have changed them.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

...but nothing about the actual plugins that were discounted, only complaints about them being discounted or the way in which you purchase them... I've explained current and potential future ways that may help make this easier to understand, so I guess that's that and nobody likes the other three? Maybe we were right in discounting them if they don't have any actual allure as plugins?

[zentatonic]

Don't let it get you down, Peter. A lot of us have been jonesing for a good Neve comp, and this one really is the bomb.

Until now, I've seen nothing but very patient responses from you guys at IK. Whiners gonna whine, mang.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Well, I have to say we also outdid ourselves with the newest module - I don't think the others pale in comparison but it IS in fact new and in popular opinion a great-sounding plugin so that could kind of make the "older siblings" feel a bit in the shadows at the mo'

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Another note, sorry I didn't go back around this - I too fell prey to the Custom Shop talk instead of the plugins... It is important to note that - and I've verified this through the engineers since it has been years since I've used a real version of this - The hardware unit we modeled the Precision Comp/Limiter on does not have external sidechain capability as some have reported here. The INT/EXT switch on the unit has the purpose of linking two or more units for surround use which, when linked, are controlled by the first one. This is reported in the user's manual (which should be available online) and also enforced by the presence of a DB15 connector on the back of the unit labelled with text pertaining to "control voltage" and "external control signals". Our model didn't include that kind of feature beacuse it's obviously not geared for surround, not because our models aren't doing external sidechain (which in time they may eventually do as it is a popular request).

[kylen]

You can by 5 20-credit packs (you just don't get a further break on the pricing like you do with larger purchases) or you can get a heck of a deal on a 200 credit pack if you are interested in two of them AND I've already stated that we're looking into the option of using your own currency to pay for the models...

OK now we're talking!

[SJ_Digriz]

... I won't get off on the CS/credits OT discussion even though I want too ...

I'm just one voice ... BUUUUUT even beyond the CS/Credits thing - I no longer buy VSTs that artificially limit their capabilities because of they are "emulating" hardware. It's BS for a couple of reasons ... first in your case you say it's "modeled after" ... so in theory you aren't limited by that model just trying to keep a close performance behavior association. 2nd it is ridiculously easy to have a "modeled" path and a "features" path if you want to be super fussy about introducing inconsistencies with the curve response under non-hardware scenarios.

There is simply no reason NOT to add things like Mix, A/B and sidechain to compressors and other effects. It should be a default in every template when you start.

I'll see what happens in upcoming updates ...

[Compyfox]

Imagine if the IK plugs used iLok. lol.

I imagine that every day - and before they wen't "CS" and "License Manager", I hoped they go E-Licenser again.

Still do actually, keeps down the noise from the usual suspects that despise IKM no matter what you do.


There, I said it - hate me now!

[Eddie TX]

Wow, never have I seen such ire from lowering prices. You can by 5 20-credit packs (you just don't get a further break on the pricing like you do with larger purchases) or you can get a heck of a deal on a 200 credit pack if you are interested in two of them AND I've already stated that we're looking into the option of using your own currency to pay for the models. But I'm pretty sure you are aware of that and simply wanted to point out yet another way we are out to get you... Next time we should leave them, like I said I feel they are still underpriced anyway, and if nobody cares about the lowered prices that's another good reason to not have changed them.

Whatever, buddy. Look, we wouldn't be having this friendly discussion if IK would simply sell their T-RackS products in the same manner as every other plugin vendor on the planet. I swear to you, if that were the case I'd be IK's #1 fan. The products ARE very good and fairly priced -- this new Neve compressor is, along with the SSL bus comp, in the same league as the best stuff out there, including UAD. It's just a shame that the work of IK's obviously talented developers is obscured by all the marketing BS.

Not to mention that with the oh-so-generous 3-day demo period, it would be nice if CS were truly up 24/7, thus enabling the demos to run properly. Were you aware that IK's entire Web presence, including CS, was offline for several hours yesterday? That's not the first time that's happened, either. Who runs your IT department, PACE? Seriously, it's hard enough trying to assess a plugin's worth in such a short timeframe -- could we at least be able to run a demo without relying on your servers to be up? It's doubly important to put these things through their paces when the licenses are NFR.

Finally, I suggest adopting a more respectful tone towards the users of this and other forums. We're the ones who ultimately pay your bills, after all. Remember the timeless maxim, "THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT." It doesn't pay to provoke and get into arguments with us (myself included), especially in public. Especially when you're taking advantage of a free general-discussion forum to promote your products. OK, end of today's rant.

Cheers,
Eddie