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greententacle · Post by **greententacle** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:47 pm

just for fun

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:04 pm

I think Swarm sounds cooler than Hive but I should probably mind my own beeswax anyway.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:07 pm

Combine a Supersaw with a 303 filter and the term "Tee Bee" gets a totally new meaning...

You could also combine it with a Bee Pee Filter (= BPF).

Question: Do Bees pee anyway?

check this: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/jokes/read/1039401/

Ingo

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:17 pm

Frantz wrote:I think Swarm sounds cooler than Hive but I should probably mind my own beeswax anyway.

I agree, but Swarm is already taken...

I'm a bit paranoid about names being taken... remember Lush Modular?

xalama qo · Post by **xalama qo** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:46 pm

FWIW I vote for Piranha. Definitely full of teeth, and a whole gang of them will eat the competition for lunch! (In fact, I'd call the osc Piranha too, it's more aggressive than Hive, and i'm sure piranhas can swarm too.)
Anyone aware of Piranha trademarks?
Anyhoo, Kyma Capybara had better think twice before bath time...

Ch00rD · Post by **Ch00rD** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:27 pm

Urs wrote:
Frantz wrote:I think Swarm sounds cooler than Hive but I should probably mind my own beeswax anyway.
I agree, but Swarm is already taken...

I'm a bit paranoid about names being taken... remember Lush Modular?

Well, then you should really consider registering it as a trademark (which is quite easy and relatively cheap).

xalama qo wrote:Anyone aware of Piranha trademarks?

Lots of hits in TESS (database with registered US trademarks). And for "Hive" as well. But as long as you claim the same word as a trademark for a distinct category of goods/services, it's usually not much of a problem if the same or a similar word has already been registered for something else.

xalama qo · Post by **xalama qo** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:50 pm

Piranha Oscillator, has a nice ring to it IMO.

xh3rv · Post by **xh3rv** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:05 pm

Ingonator wrote:
Question: Do Bees pee anyway?

Defecating bees are a geopolitically sensitive topic

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_rain

raikard233 · Post by **raikard233** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:51 pm

xalama qo wrote:FWIW I vote for Piranha...

Hmm, Piranha... sawtooth wave then must have a timemachine feature:

turbinn · Post by **turbinn** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:28 am

hey zebra 3 should have pitch bend 24 range ..doesnt now right >?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:46 am

turbinn wrote:hey zebra 3 should have pitch bend 24 range ..doesnt now right >?

Does... since 2.5.2 I think.

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:02 am

Urs wrote:
Bronto Scorpio wrote:Another small, but very important thing about the possible "EDM" synth: The filters should open completely! Most of Zebras filters cut away a significant amount of high frequencies even at the highest setting. The Xcite filter is currently the best choice to keep those high freqs. For many EDM sounds the top octaves are very important imo.

Cheers
Dennis
Well... the cutoff frequency in a 24dB filter is the point where the signal is attenuated 12dB, so a quarter as loud as the unfiltered signal. It would have to open to about 40kHz in order to not attenuate 10+kHz audibly. This is when no resonance is applied.

When resonance is applied the attenuation at the cutoff frequency turns from less into none and into a boost with more and more feedback.

Now, if a filter would fully open, there's an easy chance that resonance will create aliasing, because frequencies beyond the limits of usual samplerates get pronounced - easily to the point that downsampling filters can't suppress well enough. Hence many developers including us refrain from that idea.

An easy way to open a filter fully from the user's side is to apply a little resonance, just below the point of a frequency boost. That should work for any filter that goes up to about 20kHz. Or, a developer could "fake" fully open by adding a little resonance automatically.

Yep!
However, stuff like the automatic resonance boost workaround are exactly what differentiate an EDM synth from any other synth imo!

As others already said, there is not really something like an EDM synth. I understand the whole concept more like an "instant gratification/easy results" synth. That's what people are meaning when they ask for an "EDM synth" imo!

Zebra can do EDM sounds very well, probably even better than most dedicated "EDM synths", but it requires more knowledge of sound synthesis to get there than with Sylenth for example. People actually have to know the resonance trick themselves for example.

I'm certainly no modern EDM expert (I have no idea about it), but that's how I understand things.

I really like the Hive name by the way

Cheers
Dennis

Nig · Post by **Nig** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:19 am

Hive sound cool but I wouldn't use it in the main track of my EP.

It would definitely be used on the Bee-side though

Ivan_C · Post by **Ivan_C** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:53 am

Urs wrote:I'm a bit paranoid about names being taken... remember Lush Modular?

!!! Do you mean someone has stolen to you the right to use this name ? While you have talked about it a few years ago ?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:41 am

Wolfen666 wrote:
Urs wrote:I'm a bit paranoid about names being taken... remember Lush Modular?
!!! Do you mean someone has stolen to you the right to use this name ? While you have talked about it a few years ago ?

Well, I thought we had announced it prominently, but then D16 didn't see that and called their latest synth LuSH-101. Back then I had even asked the owner of an older synth called Lush if I could use the name.

However, seeing that there is a synth called Lush now, I would not release another synth going by that name.

- Urs

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