VST most like Serge or Buchla?

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To go there - really go there - you've got to build your own in Reaktor. But it's really hard, because you have to anticipate (and realize) every single modulation point at every module and implement it.

I am not a super builder, I admit. Some of the building is easy, a lot of it is beyond me.

One of the biggest limitations is MIDI itself, because a Buchla is almost anti-MIDI.

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What about KarmaFX->
http://karmafx.net/?id=1
-and Tass
http://www.applied-acoustics.com/tassman/overview/

maybe worth a mention
I wonder what I want in here
-my site is gone and music a mess

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nix808 wrote:What about KarmaFX->
http://karmafx.net/?id=1
-and Tass
http://www.applied-acoustics.com/tassman/overview/

maybe worth a mention
Tassman is powerful and sounds great, but personaly the grapical interface is a bit disturbing if you need to spend some hours twisting knobs and wiring modules.
But is a great tool 8)

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SODDI wrote:One of the biggest limitations is MIDI itself, because a Buchla is almost anti-MIDI.
I disagree.
http://www.buchla.com/model_225e.html
Buchla might be one of the most MIDI friendly Modular systems out there. While Reaktor's Snapshots are a bit similar to the 200e's preset system, I would say that Aalto is more similar because of how Buchla keeps audio and modulation signals separate (tinijax vs. banana plugs).

I would still say that (while the sound is quite different) ACE and Bazille are the most Serge like because of their patching flexibility and the ability to use some functions differently depending on if they are processing audio or control signals.

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justin3am wrote:
SODDI wrote:One of the biggest limitations is MIDI itself, because a Buchla is almost anti-MIDI.
I disagree.
http://www.buchla.com/model_225e.html
Buchla might be one of the most MIDI friendly Modular systems out there. While Reaktor's Snapshots are a bit similar to the 200e's preset system, I would say that Aalto is more similar because of how Buchla keeps audio and modulation signals separate (tinijax vs. banana plugs).

I would still say that (while the sound is quite different) ACE and Bazille are the most Serge like because of their patching flexibility and the ability to use some functions differently depending on if they are processing audio or control signals.
I'm with Justin on this. I spent some quality time a couple weeks ago with a couple Buchla systems; they're surprisingly MIDI friendly.

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A spectral heretic...

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kevin brown wrote:I've got a few free vst Buchla 'approximations' here:

http://kbrownsynthplugins.weebly.com/
Ah, so many interesting synths.

Sigh...all 32 bit synthedit.

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If you have Live and Max4Live check out the encoderaudio stuff, some nice clones of Buchla modules

Buchla is all about wavefolding so have a look at Melda MWavefolder, its free.
Or it's big brother MMultiWavefolder.

And of course the one that gets mentioned every time one of these 'Buchla VST' threads pops up is Madrona Labs Aalto

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Reaktor Blocks would be the virtual answer to all your Buchla needs. Class leading sound quality and audio rate modulation. Comes with an excellent set of west coast modules which don't try to hide their source of inspiration, and there's more in the user library.

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n/m

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Bazille, Aalto
rabbit in a hole

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wagtunes wrote:
kevin brown wrote:I've got a few free vst Buchla 'approximations' here:

http://kbrownsynthplugins.weebly.com/
Ah, so many interesting synths.

Sigh...all 32 bit synthedit.
You've forgot the MUX. Take look at this topic to start
viewtopic.php?f=79&t=459103
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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liquidsound wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
kevin brown wrote:I've got a few free vst Buchla 'approximations' here:

http://kbrownsynthplugins.weebly.com/
Ah, so many interesting synths.

Sigh...all 32 bit synthedit.
You've forgot the MUX. Take look at this topic to start
viewtopic.php?f=79&t=459103
I own MUX. I just never thought of it as a Buchla emulation.

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wagtunes wrote:
liquidsound wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
kevin brown wrote:I've got a few free vst Buchla 'approximations' here:

http://kbrownsynthplugins.weebly.com/
Ah, so many interesting synths.

Sigh...all 32 bit synthedit.
You've forgot the MUX. Take look at this topic to start
viewtopic.php?f=79&t=459103
I own MUX. I just never thought of it as a Buchla emulation.
No but some aspects can be reproduced.
I'm not into programming it but I thought that link can give you an idea.
I got Mother 32 as an entry into EuroRack and it's an expensive adventure. The Buchla is steep!
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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liquidsound wrote: I got Mother 32 as an entry into EuroRack and it's an expensive adventure.
Didn't anyone warn you about gateway drugs??? You're as good as dead my friend :D

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