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bluedad · Post by **bluedad** » Sat May 29, 2004 6:06 pm

got it!
nice work
I like your vocalist -
good mix and arrangement.

luCiPHer · Post by **luCiPHer** » Sat May 29, 2004 10:44 pm

i REALLY like this one

not really proggy, but i'm not really a prog fan

i like almost everything about this song, especially the piano and the vocals

the first kick in of the beats sounds a bit too cheesy to me (we can never hide...), but that's about all i can critic

ToneDunce · Post by **ToneDunce** » Sat May 29, 2004 10:55 pm

Great work!

Something is wrong about the mix though, (I am currently listening on high quality headphones). The bass/kick submix seems buried and lacks the massive punch one would expect here.

The general feeling I get is that it would start sound much more catchy if you attacked it with the "make it more resonanty sounding" mindset. Maybe even including the vocal in that plan!

If you made the lyrics simple and catchy (would make life easier for your great vocalist too!

), I think this song has EVERYTHING to be a massive hit!

I vote for less long words, more vocal emotion and a brighter mix for the voice!

-ToneDunce

morelia · Post by **morelia** » Sat May 29, 2004 10:55 pm

I really liked this until the vocal started. When the vocal started it took me a while to listen past the out of tune singing. When I did though I really really liked the music. The piano was my fav part.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sat May 29, 2004 11:48 pm

surely not prog?

still nice tho,but some of the words are a bit to long and not really used much in general conversation,cant remember the last time i annexed anything

but i personally woud be taking her voice in parts and FX in big time

in a nice way

but cool work jens,see you soon

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:51 pm

Ixox wrote:Nice work Jens...
Many good stuffs in this song.

Very nice voice that fit very weel your style.
But sometime it sounds like she isn't 100% sure of the melody.

Anyway i like it... The Fretless bass is great.

thanks Xavier

- the lady is a true fan of your work b.t.w. - but let's carry it here

donkey tugger · Post by **donkey tugger** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:08 pm

Nice tune.

Hmm, bit difficult to comment on the mix/mastering etc - the file is 22k encoded, weird!

Definitely too much reverb for my tastes (as ever....

), everything could do with being a lot more up front , especially the vocal. You could probably chop about a minute and a half out of it too - that bit in the middle meanders on far too long.

Singing is a bit out of tune, probably lacks confidence as you said she's only just started. How are you doing the vocal monitoring? Can she hear herself properly. Some singers sing better with reverb on the vocal in the monitor mix, others (like me!) sing better without any effects. Worth trying both ways.

One old trick is to sing with one side of the headphones on, and one side off, sometimes it helps to get a direct idea of hjow your voice sounds.

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:15 pm

bluedad wrote:
got it!
nice work
I like your vocalist -
good mix and arrangement.

thanks Gary

- so if the piano-man likes it, does that mean it sound as if I could actually play that
instrument?

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:18 pm

luCiPHer wrote:i REALLY like this one
not really proggy, but i'm not really a prog fan

i like almost everything about this song, especially the piano and the vocals

the first kick in of the beats sounds a bit too cheesy to me (we can never hide...), but that's about all i can critic

uiiii, thanks luCiPher, what a nice compliment

- about the beat: Bina hates it - she says it sounds
like Dr.Alban and things like that

- I had to promise her to try a breakbeat on it or something

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:20 pm

ToneDunce wrote:Great work!

Something is wrong about the mix though, (I am currently listening on high quality headphones). The bass/kick submix seems buried and lacks the massive punch one would expect here.

The general feeling I get is that it would start sound much more catchy if you attacked it with the "make it more resonanty sounding" mindset. Maybe even including the vocal in that plan!

If you made the lyrics simple and catchy (would make life easier for your great vocalist too! ), I think this song has EVERYTHING to be a massive hit!

I vote for less long words, more vocal emotion and a brighter mix for the voice!

-ToneDunce

thanks for your nice words and the good advices, Tone

I'll try a totally different beat for the tune and I'll probably do a short 'single version' remix with
only an excerpt/simplyfication of the lyrics
(just as an alternative version)

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:22 pm

morelia wrote:I really liked this until the vocal started. When the vocal started it took me a while to listen past the out of tune singing. When I did though I really really liked the music. The piano was my fav part.

thanks morelia

she's still practising a bit, but I love her voice and her melodies and I think she's really talented

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:24 pm

vurt wrote:surely not prog?
still nice tho,but some of the words are a bit to long and not really used much in general conversation,cant remember the last time i annexed anything

but i personally woud be taking her voice in parts and FX in big time in a nice way

but cool work jens,see you soon

surely not prog!

(but close enough

)

thanks; Vurt - see you next week

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:31 pm

donkey tugger wrote:Nice tune.

Hmm, bit difficult to comment on the mix/mastering etc - the file is 22k encoded, weird!

Definitely too much reverb for my tastes (as ever.... ), everything could do with being a lot more up front , especially the vocal. You could probably chop about a minute and a half out of it too - that bit in the middle meanders on far too long.

Singing is a bit out of tune, probably lacks confidence as you said she's only just started. How are you doing the vocal monitoring? Can she hear herself properly. Some singers sing better with reverb on the vocal in the monitor mix, others (like me!) sing better without any effects. Worth trying both ways.

One old trick is to sing with one side of the headphones on, and one side off, sometimes it helps to get a direct idea of hjow your voice sounds.

thank you, Benny (Mr. Leeds?:idea:)

some good advices there (in your reply)
- she hates reverb on her voice while recording, we have reached so far as to find this out, but there is
some further experimentation needed to find out what suits her best to do a great performance

- but she gets better every day

we'll try the 'one-ear-monitoring-thing' next time we record something

edit: see you next week as well!

clueless · Post by **clueless** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:32 pm

another top tip is to get her to sing naked in a dark room

clueless · Post by **clueless** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:33 pm

then, you sneak up behind her, and...

the screams fade on a daily basis