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Whirly · Post by **Whirly** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:47 am

Now, this is the kind of news I like to wake up to after tweaking Bazille till 3am

the19thbear · Post by **the19thbear** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:08 am

Any chance of the AAX version being able to output midi to other instruments in pro tools real time?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:20 am

the19thbear wrote:Any chance of the AAX version being able to output midi to other instruments in pro tools real time?

Dunno yet. We have "MIDI Out" on our ever growing todo list, but as it's complicated to achieve in AU so far (supposed to change), we haven't given it a high priority.

cheppner · Post by **cheppner** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:13 am

Hi all!

Glad the update is received so well

I can confirm the hp/lp noise-bug as well as the filter-oddities in draft mode. The former is fixed already

Cheers,
- Clemens

fluxmind · Post by **fluxmind** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:43 am

cheppner wrote:Hi all!

Glad the update is received so well

I can confirm the hp/lp noise-bug as well as the filter-oddities in draft mode. The former is fixed already

Cheers,
- Clemens

Awesome. Let's try it. It's a wet synth freaks dream, two OSCs, two noise waveforms, one low-passed other high-passed, both keyboard tracked, mmmm

that's how I did discover that bug, by messing with noise waveforms on both oscs hahaha, one noise waveform is never enough

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:45 pm

Just did a first patch using one Supersaw Osc and the Uhbie filter. Sounds great.
Many thanks for publishing the public beta now.

As faras i could see in the Supersaw Osc CTRL 1 is for the detuning and CTRL 2 for "Mix" (= increasing the volume of the additional saws).

Ingo

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:23 pm

fluxmind wrote:
cheppner wrote:Hi all!

Glad the update is received so well

I can confirm the hp/lp noise-bug as well as the filter-oddities in draft mode. The former is fixed already

Cheers,
- Clemens
Awesome. Let's try it. It's a wet synth freaks dream, two OSCs, two noise waveforms, one low-passed other high-passed, both keyboard tracked, mmmm
that's how I did discover that bug, by messing with noise waveforms on both oscs hahaha, one noise waveform is never enough

Imagine an infinite stack of noise waveforms, normalized in volume of course soas not to deafen you and destroy the universe

ULTIMATE UNISON NOISE POWER!

firepile · Post by **firepile** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:43 pm

richardb09 wrote:Wow, with the new digital JP8080 style Osc's and the combination of the Ubie filter ....Diva can take on a whole new sound.
I found myself creating those great Celestial new age pads of the past with ease and with great sound quality.

The new Arp is great too,

It certainly is. Any chance of getting a similar arp in ACE?

Adrian B · Post by **Adrian B** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:44 pm

Urs wrote:
Adrian B wrote:is the square wave (set to a pulse) supposed to have extreme aliasing or noise in high pitches?
Possibly, yes. We sneaked that thing in that CTRL2 does, which isn't found in the original JP algorithms. It's a bit of a stunt due to the aliasing, but it's also too cool to not to do. Does switching to Great or Divine make a difference?

Here's more news: We're going to add a "less aliasing" button, which internally replaces some of the "naive" algorithms with one using Zebra's rendering method or other means to bandlimit the waves. This will work wonders on some waveforms, but it won't help with the feedback oscillator.

I see, yes the CTRL2 is cool. That aliasing effect is about the same in Fast, Great, and Divine. I assumed perhaps the JP-8000 had aliasing naturally, since it was an early VA. (I've never owned one.) A less aliasing button sounds neat. Didn't observe the same noises in the tri wave.

Kaboom75 · Post by **Kaboom75** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:58 pm

Good read here about the JP-8000 it's well known for being the first and best synth made for Super Saw and having a lot of aliasing. The Aliasing is part of the JP-8000 famous sound. http://www.ghostfact.com/jp-8000-supersaw/

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:01 pm

Yes, the JP aliases a fair bit, but not often as much as that square wave. In order to do "correct JP aliasing" we would have to run the oscillator at a fixed sample rate and resample in realtime. That's not really anything we would like to do.

As for the brilliance or tone of the oscillator - it is extremely close to the original, but the original JP doesn't have a non-linear filter. Diva's filters naturally cut some high freq content, not just because they're lowpass filters, but also because the distortion smooths out some spikes. That's most audible with ramping waveforms such as saw and triangle. Hence it doesn't even get all that better when using Multimode or Uhbie in Highpass modes - the distortion still cuts some top end and adds some growl.

I hope no-one will seriously ask us to add a clean digital filter now, with that in mind

fluxmind · Post by **fluxmind** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:40 pm

Sendy wrote:
Imagine an infinite stack of noise waveforms, normalized in volume of course soas not to deafen you and destroy the universe

ULTIMATE UNISON NOISE POWER!

Nuclear mushroom cloud summarizes it well, don't forget sunglasses

tappert · Post by **tappert** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:04 pm

Hi,
sorry if it has already been discussed here but what is the prefered way to cleanly uninstall Diva before installing this beta? Is there a way to preserve the license info file?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:16 pm

tappert wrote:Hi,
sorry if it has already been discussed here but what is the prefered way to cleanly uninstall Diva before installing this beta? Is there a way to preserve the license info file?

Usually you don't uninstall at all. You just install the new version over your old one. And you won't want to go back

tappert · Post by **tappert** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:24 pm

thanks Urs, always faster than light to help your customers!

u-he

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