KVR Audio

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:58 am

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Keef Baker · Post by **Keef Baker** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:10 pm

I used to be a big logic guy but when my choices where spend 2k on a new mac or change platform I switched and used my Live license i already had.

I've tried using reaper which i enjoyed but Live just works for me.

I rue the day Apple bought emagic, i really do.

tooneba · Post by **tooneba** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:43 am

Visual and actual sound lag is intentionaly implimented in Live. If player use a vst instrument that causes latency he tried to play on the timing of the actual sound, not visual. It leads him press keys earlier than the actual timing, and Live places notes delayed spot. It means the position bar runs ahead of the playback of the sound you are hearing. IIRC you can turn this off in the config file.

Keef Baker · Post by **Keef Baker** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:39 am

That logic doesn't work because the midi notes dont' move.

Emanresu · Post by **Emanresu** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:05 pm

OP, you mention videos you made for gearslutz and some one else mentioned videos you made here. Could you post the links?

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:03 am

tooneba wrote:Visual and actual sound lag is intentionaly implimented in Live. If player use a vst instrument that causes latency he tried to play on the timing of the actual sound, not visual. It leads him press keys earlier than the actual timing, and Live places notes delayed spot. It means the position bar runs ahead of the playback of the sound you are hearing. IIRC you can turn this off in the config file.

Yes this is a fine feature. But doesn't change the fact that you can't get synced plug-ins to sync properly if there is latency before it in the track. And it doesn't change the fact that automation won't actually affect the sound at the right spots in time if there is latency before the automated parameter in the track.

tooneba · Post by **tooneba** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:14 am

That is different problem from the visual lagging. I commented about it and it aint bug.

Keef Baker · Post by **Keef Baker** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:37 pm

Yeah, toneba everyone's talking about the automation latency where what's displayed and programmed doesn't happen when it's supposed to, not the position bar.

EatMe · Post by **EatMe** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:02 pm

TheoM wrote:

I sent a message to the Ableton support helpdesk, as I am a registered user of v8 lite, asking to confirm something about the PDC / visual issues.

They responded:

Ableton support wrote:
Thanks for contacting Ableton Support and sorry for the issue you are experiencing.

We all agree that this needs improvement (especially when working with plug-ins introducing a lot of latency), but it's not technically a bug, as it follows the specification, as described here:

https://www.ableton.com/en/articles/aut ... t-of-sync/

Rest assured that we know the problem, we hear you, and we're working on it. As to when we will have a solution for you, please understand that we can't provide an exact deadline.

Merry Christmas!

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:56 am

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Ableton, all plugins cause *automation* pdc issues, very good discussion within.. lots of info!

Ableton, all plugins cause automation pdc issues, very good discussion within.. lots of info!