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[Tricky-Loops]

Maybe these recommendations could help?

http://oneminutemusiclesson.com/2012/07 ... ning-tools

[JumpingJackFlash]

Are these Do-Re-Mi-Fa-Sol-La-Ti names still important? I forgot them decades ago. I know what a tonic, supertonic, subdominant, dominant, mediant, submediant, leading tone etc. is, and I know how to write them in Roman numbers, is this sufficient?

I would say what you have is sufficient. I know some people swear by it, but I've never been a big fan of solfage myself.

[Musicologo]

As a matter of curiosity, as a Portuguese researcher, I can tell you that
"dó ré mi fa sol lá si" are the direct translation used here to "c d e f g a b".


If you see something like La7-Mim-Fa#m-Re that just means A7-Em-F#m-D.

For some reason, and for linguistic purposes we appropriated those terms and instead of "movable" dó, dó is fixed and means C, etc.
I believe Maria in "the sound of music" uses the same system to teach the notes to the children. It is the system we still use here to teach kids to learn music theory.

[fluffy_little_something]

And, getting back on topic, you want to be able to sing intervals. That's the most effective way to drill their sound into your head.

Just tried to sing the notes from my digital piano, the lowest note I can produce is A#1, the highest B5, unfortunately there is a "hurdle" in the fourth octave, where my voice kind of flips and a note is missing

[fluffy_little_something]

As a matter of curiosity, as a Portuguese researcher, I can tell you that
"dó ré mi fa sol lá si" are the direct translation used here to "c d e f g a b".


If you see something like La7-Mim-Fa#m-Re that just means A7-Em-F#m-D.

For some reason, and for linguistic purposes we appropriated those terms and instead of "movable" dó, dó is fixed and means C, etc.
I believe Maria in "the sound of music" uses the same system to teach the notes to the children. It is the system we still use here to teach kids to learn music theory.

Yes, if the fixed Do is used, which seems to be common.
E como se diz sharp e flat em português?

[fmr]

As a matter of curiosity, as a Portuguese researcher, I can tell you that
"dó ré mi fa sol lá si" are the direct translation used here to "c d e f g a b".


If you see something like La7-Mim-Fa#m-Re that just means A7-Em-F#m-D.

For some reason, and for linguistic purposes we appropriated those terms and instead of "movable" dó, dó is fixed and means C, etc.
I believe Maria in "the sound of music" uses the same system to teach the notes to the children. It is the system we still use here to teach kids to learn music theory.

Yes, if the fixed Do is used, which seems to be common.
E como se diz sharp e flat em português?

Sharp is "sustenido" and flat is "bemol". Funny names, that have their roots in music history. Do you really speak portuguese, or did you use Google translator?

[fluffy_little_something]

Sharp is "sustenido" and flat is "bemol". Funny names, that have their roots in music history. Do you really speak portuguese, or did you use Google translator?

Never heard of those terms before, especially not bemol, which might have to do with German Moll I suppose, judging from the linguistics...

Yes, I speak Portuguese, but not like a native speaker, of course Not yet

[Tricky-Loops]

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[fmr]

Never heard of those terms before, especially not bemol, which might have to do with German Moll I suppose, judging from the linguistics...

Yes, I speak Portuguese, but not like a native speaker, of course Not yet

Well, sustenido has the same root as the spanish "sostenido" (used with the same meaning). I don't know the origin in portuguese, but apparently in spanish, sostenido has more or less the same meaning as "subido" which means raised (makes sense, I guess). Anyway, the root is more connected with "sustain" or "hold". Till today, I didn't find a reliable source that explained why this word became used by portuguese and spanish, because in french is "dièse" and in italian is "diesis".
Bemol has its roots in the first note lowered, the B. When the B was lowered, it was written with a rounded shape, which is, actually, similar to the shape of the accident we use now. It was the B molle (in italian) - which became our bemol. When the B was natural, it was written with a more square shape (which is what we use for the natural accident), and then the italians called it the B quadro (B square), which became our "bequadro".
These two words are very similar in both portuguese, spanish, french and italian. So, the misteyr rises only in the sustenido/sostenido (probably a confusion with sostenuto when the italians came to the Peninsula to teach music in the XVII/XVIII century).

[fluffy_little_something]

Seems the mol in bemol comes from Latin and is indeed the same as Moll in German: Cantus durus vs Cantus mollis, the former being major and the latter minor. Major is called Dur in German.

[fmr]

Seems the mol in bemol comes from Latin and is indeed the same as Moll in German: Cantus durus vs Cantus mollis, the former being major and the latter minor. Major is called Dur in German.

Yes, of course. Portuguese, spanish, french and italian are all latin languages. That's why there are so many similar words.

And since the italian dominated the music from the end of XV century until more or less half of the XVIII century, and before that it was the catholic church that dominated, music is full of latin and italian words.

[fmr]

Actually, the germans use the term "Dur" for "major", and the term "moll" for "minor" even now. F Dur means F Major, f moll means f minor. But if you want to say F sharp, it's "Fis". B major is H Dur, but B flat major is B dur. The H is a reminiscence of the B quadro (the symbol, which looked somehoh like an H), while the B is a reminiscence of the B molle (again the symbol, which looked like a B).

[fluffy_little_something]

Actually, the germans use the term "Dur" for "major", and the term "moll" for "minor" even now.

That is what I said

[Tricky-Loops]

Actually, the germans use the term "Dur" for "major", and the term "moll" for "minor" even now.

"Dur" (lat. "duro") means "hard" and "Moll" (lat. "mollis") means "soft"!

[fmr]

Actually, the germans use the term "Dur" for "major", and the term "moll" for "minor" even now.

"Dur" (lat. "duro") means "hard" and "Moll" (lat. "mollis") means "soft"!

And again, the Major tonalities are commonly regarded as harder, and the minor tonalities as softer, although this is highly subjective