Another FM video with cracked Sylenth. ...and Martin Garrix.

[highkoo]

I was just thinking that this thread could use some fresh blood to spill.

So, after all the controversy, it must be a wild coincidence that the offending pixels are dead center of the frame.

It makes me want to spit, even if I don my old gray chapeau.

[Delfinoverde]

According to your ethics, boo burger flippin hoo.

So what? Now you pretend to know something about ethics of other people or what?? Are you a clairvoyant?

People deserve to be paid for their work.

Okay now go and preach this to some capitalist profiteers out there, ripping people off, underpaying them, exploiting workers, strangers, women etc…

[Sendy]

Yep, the world is broken, but at the end of the day - especially if you're rich - you can choose to either resist the problem, OR ADD TO IT. And when you autonomously choose to add to it, you're as bad as the worst corrupt politician.

Selfishness is a blight on humanity and the majority of EDM and mainstream culture in general is an artifact of that blight.

[Uedi]

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[Sendy]

Been reading a lot of BoC interviews recently, it seems to me the depopulated world that their music hints at will be brought about by the selfish stampeding masses, in a bid to endlessly and exponentially create more and more desposable "stuff" at any cost, to support and rise in power within an economy that neither really exists nor cares what our fate is. There is a lot of humanity in BoC's music and I think they intuitively understand this.

[V0RT3X]

Been reading a lot of BoC interviews recently, it seems to me the depopulated world that their music hints at will be brought about by the selfish stampeding masses, in a bid to endlessly and exponentially create more and more disposable "stuff" at any cost, to support and rise in power within an economy that neither really exists nor cares what our fate is. There is a lot of humanity in BoC's music and I think they intuitively understand this.

whoa that's pretty deep.

I've never listened to enough BoC to come up with my own summary of their music but I can see what you mean with the stuff I have listened to.

[Sendy]

Been reading a lot of BoC interviews recently, it seems to me the depopulated world that their music hints at will be brought about by the selfish stampeding masses, in a bid to endlessly and exponentially create more and more disposable "stuff" at any cost, to support and rise in power within an economy that neither really exists nor cares what our fate is. There is a lot of humanity in BoC's music and I think they intuitively understand this.

whoa that's pretty deep.

I've never listened to enough BoC to come up with my own summary of their music but I can see what you mean with the stuff I have listened to.

I'm not a heavy BoC listener. I enjoy their music, A LOT, but other people have looked way more into it and catalogued every single reference and allusion in their music. So mostly I'm relying on their work and collective efforts, plus reading up as many interviews as I can.

What's quite inspiring, aside from how much I can relate to their worldview, is how effectively they (and many other legendary artists) have weaved narratives and lore into their music to make it that much more compelling, without actually having a surface text that bogs down the music with the pretention of lyrics

[V0RT3X]

As for the rest of the conversation, I've only found that going legit cost me a shit load of money. However in the end it was worth it, because you know your helping developers pay their bills. This in turn allows them to put out more awesome products, and when they do you know you helped that process.

When i ended up buying my software and was a proud owner i felt i kind of belonged to a group of other proud owners. Sure I am far from the richest person around like most of you I am sure but I definitely feel better knowing I am doing the right thing.

I wonder how things will become when they have 3D printers that can print out working hardware devices in the future.

[V0RT3X]

Been reading a lot of BoC interviews recently, it seems to me the depopulated world that their music hints at will be brought about by the selfish stampeding masses, in a bid to endlessly and exponentially create more and more disposable "stuff" at any cost, to support and rise in power within an economy that neither really exists nor cares what our fate is. There is a lot of humanity in BoC's music and I think they intuitively understand this.

whoa that's pretty deep.

I've never listened to enough BoC to come up with my own summary of their music but I can see what you mean with the stuff I have listened to.

I'm not a heavy BoC listener. I enjoy their music, A LOT, but other people have looked way more into it and catalogued every single reference and allusion in their music. So mostly I'm relying on their work and collective efforts, plus reading up as many interviews as I can.

What's quite inspiring, aside from how much I can relate to their worldview, is how effectively they (and many other legendary artists) have weaved narratives and lore into their music to make it that much more compelling, without actually having a surface text that bogs down the music with the pretention of lyrics

Yah I love concept albums that tell stories. I think its amazing if an musician can tell a story that is meaningful in the grand scheme of things through music. If i ever wrote a commercial album, then i would want it to tell a meaningful story or share a meaningful idea.

[jancivil]

Evidenced here in this fatuous lingo, positing 'Reverse engineer' instead of 'cracker' or your 'crackateer'.'They're pirates, too, doncha know, what a romance. Darkness is a virtue, and oh the revolutionary implications. (Of being a sneak-thief, taking things you don't need.)

Ha-ha, this shows how few you know about the reality!
Reverse Engineers earn indeed more respect than some usual developers since without their help they wouldn't discover the holes & lacks in their protections!
Then who gives you the right to choose for others what they want to use If i decide to use a cracked software none of those oh-so-honest moral preachers will stop me from doing it. Also it doesn't retain me from buying then a "legal" version. All this talks of/about piracy are so futile.

The law is a decent starting point. Developers deserve to get paid for their work. People deserve to be paid for their work.

"earn" more respect than "some usual developers"? Respect from whom? You're really on the wrong forum to display your disrespect for developers of software. For a long time, the way it was moderated here, you'd be gone by now.

Any developer has BUILT something. A 'reverse engineer' has not, it's right there in the term. But to you, it's the parasite riding on the back of the thing 'earns' more respect. Because they're needed. They're helping! That is a seriously distorted use of language. Your whole bit is

[jancivil]

Thanks for describing yourself as really knowledgable about cracking, though. You're brilliant, aren't you?

[billcarroll]

You'll all be pleased to know Martin Garrix has another #1 on Meatport with (swing it like a) "Helicopter"

http://news.beatport.com/blog/2014/02/2 ... elicopter/

[aciddose]

I've done a bit of "cracking" (not just removing copy protections, but mostly other stuff) myself to learn. I've done a lot of reversing purely for fun, making modern level editors for old games or "trainers" using access to the other process's memory where I can divert program flow or replace data as desired.

Fun stuff for sure, and extremely difficult.

Lets be honest though, this sort of thing isn't difficult because it requires some special sort of genius to accomplish. My "trainers", 99.999% of the work was writing actual code and working on complicated problems with GUI implementation and so on. Only a bit of that was reverse engineering.

The reason the 0.001% of reverse engineering was a million billion infinity times more difficult was because it is like moving a mountain with a little plastic toy shovel.



This is "give a thousand monkeys a thousand type-writers and in enough time they'll write the complete works of shakespeare".

Only you need to be one monkey with a thousand gallons of mountain dew and a million years to spend in a secret basement dungeon.

[Uedi]

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[Sendy]

You'll all be pleased to know Martin Garrix has another #1 on Meatport with (swing it like a) "Helicopter"

http://news.beatport.com/blog/2014/02/2 ... elicopter/

Let me guess, it has a rising siren effect and speeding up snare rush going into the drop, the drop consists of a simple three-note synth riff and pounding kick, then the whole thing gets pitched up higher and higher (to make it exciting), then you get an atmospheric *boof* and a bar or two of relative silence, and the whole thing kicks off again with a subtle layer of extra percussion or something.