Render track = what bitrate?

[Aleatoric]

Ok I did my own research. Track rendering (not to be confused with exporting) is indeed 16 bit 44.1khz. My audio card output is set to 24 bit 48khz, however I loaded a rendered Tracktion file into Peak 4 and it did indeed show up as 16 bit 44.1khz. This really needs to be fixed so there is an option or a dialog box to select the bit rate and sample rate on rendered tracks.

I would imagine frozen track are temporarily rendered as 16 bit as well, there should be an option to set the bit rate in prefs. This never occured to me but I did notice rendered track losing there fullness. If you ask me this should definitly be addressed before v2.

[P.T.]

Highlight the track you want to render.
Click on export.
Choose "create an audio file"
You will be presented with a dialog box.

If you solo that track it will render only that track.

If you instead use freeze or render then you don't have a choice.

In the end, freeze, render and export an audio file are all the same. You are just making a wave file.

If you want to choose the bit-rate then the way I have suggested will allow you to do that.

[edelweiss]

If I select a clip or a track, then click export, I get the same "rendering" dialog box that I get when I go to export the entire edit and it gives me the option of 8,16,24,32 bit sample size. Is there a difference between the PC and Mac versions here, or did I misunderstand the question...??

[IIRs]

I've been using track render loads.. I just assumed it would use a suitably high bitrate..

Anyway, just been and checked a random selection of audio files I've created in this way: Every one is 24 bit..

I'm quite relieved to be honest.. the thought that I had been routinely dropping everything to 16 bit without hearing a difference was not a comfortable one!

For the record I use a M-Audio Delta 66 & always run it at 24 bit / 44KHz..

[IIRs]

If I select a clip or a track, then click export, I get the same "rendering" dialog box that I get when I go to export the entire edit and it gives me the option of 8,16,24,32 bit sample size. Is there a difference between the PC and Mac versions here, or did I misunderstand the question...??

The question refers to the "render track" button (next to "freeze track"), not "Export"

If you don't have that button then there IS a diiference on the mac..

[Aleatoric]

are you on a PC or MAC?

[Aleatoric]

Because over hear in mac osx my audio card is running 24/48 and all my rendered files are 16 bit. This REALLY sucks. Jules PLEASE fix!

[Aleatoric]

THis is the lamest thing I have ever found out about Tracktion. I emailed Jules and asked him to fix this and make both renderd and frozen track selectable.

[Mr. Tingle]

why can't the default be 32bit?

Surly this process is sound card independent.

[Aleatoric]

The default should be 24 bit, or there should be an option to select 16, 24, or 32.. In logic the default freeze is 24/48. This is a really really lame thing that needs to be fixed. ASAP.

[vibro]

select track with midi notes you want to render
go export/create an audio file
choose 24 bit in the export dialogue
export
hit the 'A' key to import your audio

24 bit all the way baby

; )

vibrations

[Sleepwalker]

select track with midi notes you want to render
go export/create an audio file
choose 24 bit in the export dialogue
export
hit the 'A' key to import your audio

24 bit all the way baby

; )

vibrations

Shure, but its slowing down the work flow, if you render a lot. I typicaly render a lot straight in the sequence track, because my cpu cant take so many vstis at the same time, im not a freeze user, because I make a lot of edits, even in the end prosess. Export and inport, just to get a fast render, the "freeze" way, is slowing down a lot, and its not in the Tracktion spirit. If the quick render is going to be rendered over, and over again, its most definitly need to be more then 16bit!!

-im on OSX, 867mhz powerbook.

[Aleatoric]

I agree sleepwalker!!! I am not going to satisfy for a long more tedouse work around for a function that is already built in. Just make an option so both frozen and rendered files (the one click way) can be 16, 24 or 32 bit......simplist way I can think of is to do this but creating an option in "settings" to select the bit rate for each, frozen and rendered. Is that so hard??? Lacking that just make it so both are set to your audio cards output bit rate. It is important to me that this applies for BOTH Fronzen and Rendered tracks and not just one or the other. 24 bit all the way. It is only nautral. thanks.

[ezeeboogie]

As a workaround, vibro's idea is very good. If you leave your "rendering" folder open behind tracktion, it's simply a case of creating the audio file (and the selector remembers the options you have chosen, bit rate etc., so you only need to set your settings once) and then dragging and dropping the file into Tracktion. It hardly adds anything to the workflow.

I am sure that Jules will look into this for you but today is Sunday. Even Jules takes a day off. Send the guy an email, if you haven't already, tell him what your problem is and wait for a reply.

For now, calm down. Jules is one person, he does not have a team of programmers at his disposal. The option you are asking for may be a simple thing to put in but it also could require a fairly big rewrite, depending on how Jules coded it originally. You cannot simply assume this will be easy to do.

Right now though, you do have a workaround, so go and make music!

[Spitfire31]

Just for the record, the expression 'bit rate' is an oxymoron and leads to confusion. 'Bits' have nothing to do with 'rate' but with 'depth'. It's 'bit depth' (8, 16, 24, and so on) and 'sample rate' (44,1, 48, and so on).