U-he stuff rules

[bmrzycki]

we have to say good bye to the idea that software is ever finished. It's an illusion that something might look "complete"...I'd rather keep a beta-ish touch than build an anonymous "wall of professionalism" around us.

I love u-he because of this. Companies that release patches 1-2 times a year means that for 6 months, or more, the bug you reported is effectively broken on your system until the update.

Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained.

[rod_zero]

Thanks Urs for all the work, I like the devlopment pace your team has. The product feel alive but doesnt leave the user behind.

[Infinite5ths]

Yes to all the positive things said above: u-he is one of the finest developers I've ever purchased products from -- in ANY branch of technology. Great products (though some where a bit over my head when I first owned them), terrific support, great user following and superb community

[Synthetic Wav]

Oh c'mon Synthetic Wav, you're clearly over-reacting because subjective stuff won't get implemented and probably waiting impatiently for Zebra3 like everyone else...

I believe everyone of us would like to see updates of our favorite synths but we don't moan around always feeling disappointing or what not... c'mon man, at least be fair!

Yes it's exactly my feeling, don't get me wrong i love u-he product but it's frustating to wait for newer versions with features for so long, also i wish for more, like bazille the modulation of fx page would have been sick, hive with no fm and sync anyway i will still probably get it i know it will be great but same i will miss some stuff into it, so for me it won't feel complete.. I don't like to have too much plugins, too much choice, i like to have just a few go to synths and not feel limited when programing these. i don't know if their is some commercial reason behind this..that way you have to get all the plugins, but it's frustating as the limitation are still there into each plugins.

It s frustating to miss features in a synth cause when you tweak it,you may think if there was this or that it would be amazing but it's just not possible.

U-he work on many product so for me it's one of the reason some features may be lacking as it need time to implement and we get these slowly.

[liquidsound]

Yuhii ...yahoo

Do you u-he?

[3ee]

@Synthetic Wav ..totally understand, your initial post sounded a bit different that's all!

Man, imagine when Zebra3 will hit, there will be riots in the streets!

[TomTwohy]

Urs, we love your little "boitque" of wares, it's a refreshing change from other more factory style affairs.

I also fully agree that change is ACTUALLY GOOD AFTER ALL!

I though Zebra was the ultimate ... almost peerless. I had firm ideas regarding interface and all that... I was wrong. Bazzile has everything right on top and invites experimentation. The new osc/filter/distortion code is now making my sound much more lush and detailed.

Bazille, my iPad (working anywhere) even Serum (a direct competitor) changed and improved on how I do things. Hell, even Maschine improved and subtlety altered my way of working with it. Zebra... is looking fat and old already ... My goodness I've only had it two years.

So, go right ahead and change me some more... I LIKE it!!

[xx JPRacer xx]

Urs, we love your little "boitque" of wares, it's a refreshing change from other more factory style affairs.

"boitque"???
Do you mean "boutique"?

[rockmachine]

Meanwhile, in the last 4 days or so,I've been insanely busy using said U-he synths, to compose another work which I hope some of you guys will have a listen to. When I can get the types of sounds out of Urs' synths that I can, I feel my ardent support of the company is fairly justified.
https://soundcloud.com/raven-2741/the-g ... shangri-la

[News From The Sky]

Yes it's exactly my feeling, don't get me wrong i love u-he product but it's frustating to wait for newer versions with features for so long, also i wish for more, like bazille the modulation of fx page would have been sick, hive with no fm and sync

If you won't use products until all the features you want are added to them, you'll never do anything. There will always be new software and new features, and there will always be gaps and missing features and tradeoffs (Hive lacks FM and sync because it's designed to be a low-CPU synth). Use what's available now; complaining that the tools available aren't perfect is just an excuse to avoid making music. Real artists use whatever they can. The Beatles did amazing things in mono on four-track tape machines. Most of us have or with little effort can have a studio that puts what they used to shame.

so for me it won't feel complete.. I don't like to have too much plugins, too much choice, i like to have just a few go to synths and not feel limited when programing these. i don't know if their is some commercial reason behind this..that way you have to get all the plugins, but it's frustating as the limitation are still there into each plugins.

Your feeling of incompleteness is about you, though, not about some nefarious scheme by Urs to force everyone to buy all of his products (U-he is not Elektron, after all ). A synth that could do everything - audio-rate modulation of all parameters (ACE) plus zero-delay-feedback filters (Diva) plus completely modular workflow (Zebra) plus a fully flexible modulation matrix with multi-threading (Hive) would not only kill your computer but possibly overwhelm you with options.

It s frustating to miss features in a synth cause when you tweak it,you may think if there was this or that it would be amazing but it's just not possible.

It's already amazing. But different synths are good at different things. There is no perfect do-it-all synth. Use the right tool for the job, don't blame them for not being optimized for all jobs.

[pdxindy]

It s frustating to miss features in a synth cause when you tweak it,you may think if there was this or that it would be amazing but it's just not possible.

It's already amazing. But different synths are good at different things. There is no perfect do-it-all synth. Use the right tool for the job, don't blame them for not being optimized for all jobs.

And lots of things that may not seem possible at first glance are. Bazille does not have any modulation of the FX, but of course you can use host automation, midi learn and/or 3rd party FX to do that.

[pdxindy]

Meanwhile, in the last 4 days or so,I've been insanely busy using said U-synths, to compose another work which I hope some of you guys will have a listen to. When I can get the types of sounds out of Urs' synths that I can, I feel my ardent support of the company is fairly justified.

I liked your track!

[rockmachine]

Thanks pdx, the compliment is much appreciated, and thanks to all you who did listen to it, or any of my stuff for that matter. It's cool connecting with fellow U-He users.

[V0RT3X]

Just made this with Zebra2 and a few ableton drum kits.
https://soundcloud.com/voratix/z2r1

it's definitely not finished at all, this is pretty rough still but wow Zebra2 is amazing.

[Synthetic Wav]

Yes it's exactly my feeling, don't get me wrong i love u-he product but it's frustating to wait for newer versions with features for so long, also i wish for more, like bazille the modulation of fx page would have been sick, hive with no fm and sync

If you won't use products until all the features you want are added to them, you'll never do anything. There will always be new software and new features, and there will always be gaps and missing features and tradeoffs (Hive lacks FM and sync because it's designed to be a low-CPU synth). Use what's available now; complaining that the tools available aren't perfect is just an excuse to avoid making music. Real artists use whatever they can. The Beatles did amazing things in mono on four-track tape machines. Most of us have or with little effort can have a studio that puts what they used to shame.

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i do use the products but i don't want 15 synths and use these at 30% , i dont use synth like expenders .. i like workorse synths that i can try to master, here we talk about big limitation no audiorate, no fm no sync most synth have this but yeah i didn't know it was made to be a cpu efficient synth.

it's not a excuse to not make music, i don't see the point and about the beatles i don't care much about their music i like experimental and psychedelic sound and we are soon in 2015. tools used dictate more or less the sound and evolution of electronic music since the early 90s, to me it's all about beeing inovative, that's what i like these day.
Limited tools even if these are great , like a sh 101 for example have less and less their place cause of the limitation for me ( yeah i should buy 9u of eurorack and don't look back )