Vaz Modular

[fluffy_little_something]

Just tried it, Chrome does not even warn me or anything

[wagtunes]

Just tried it, Chrome does not even warn me or anything

Well, either he fixed it or Chrome finally figured out the file is fine. I'll try it again (it's been 6 months) and see if it works.

** EDIT ** Nope. I get VAZ32.exe (whatever it was called) is malicious and the only option it gives me is Dismiss. There is no ignore.

[whyterabbyt]

Which browser do you use?
Chrome does not like certain formats, either, but I can override it...

I've tried. I can't. Maybe I'm an idiot. Doesn't matter what the reason is. I can't download the file.

But other people can, so your insistence that this is something Martin 'refuses' to fix is misplaced. Its actually something you are refusing to fix.

Oh, and one other thing for rabbit.

Its 'whyterabbyt', please try and get it right. However if you insist on using shortened, misspelled versions of people's pseudonym's, let me know, Im quite happy to call you 'wang'.

I don't except the "sometimes there is no option" argument.

Why is that 'for me'? I didnt make any such claim regarding the VAT-MOSS situation. In fact the only time I spoke about options it was saying that he shouldnt foresake thsoe he had. Did I even mention VAT, in fact?

Got confused somewhere, have you?

You can get VAT software that will do all this for you for as little as $9.95. You want something more robust? You're talking $100 tops.

Software that somehow magically works out where the buyer is and applies the correct VAT at the time of sale, and keeps all records?
For $9.95. And it magically integrates with everyones existing shoppping cart and customer database systems?

Dont believe you.

(That's probably 'I don't accept' by the way. )

Plus, you need to be earning a minimum of 77 thousand pounds yearly in order to be required to even do this.

Wrong. The point of all the massive amount of fuss about the recent EU legislation (VAT-MOSS) was that it removed the threshold at which VAT requirements are applied.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -consumers

See under Section 3

Who will this affect?
These simplified VAT registration arrangements will only be available to you if:

you are a UK-based supplier of digital services
you wish to use the VAT MOSS
your UK taxable turnover is below the UK-VAT registration threshold (currently £81,000)

The fact that a simplified VAT registration is available under £81,000 is a clear indication that registration is still required under that threshold.

Perhaps youve managed to avoid the tens of thousands of places where this change was made clear, but generally, people in the EU who are affected by it, didnt.

[jsp1979]

I don't understand the whole Vaz thing either. I tried to download the demo but Chrome wouldn't let me saying it was a virus or something. And then even if I could download it and try it out, now way to buy it now.

Here's what I don't understand. If you're not going to sell it anymore because of VAT, why not just make it available for free? I mean what's the point of the synth totally going to waste?

When you get the "malicious download" deal with Chrome, click on the "Show all downloads" link on the lower right.

That brings up a list of downloads and you'll see a link below the file that says roughly "Keep this file" or "recover this file." You'll get a warning, but it will let you keep it.

I have to do this for u-he's files as well.

[elassi]

There's indeed a virus warning (8/57 scanners) when checking the file with online tools: https://www.virustotal.com/de/file/6a7a ... 433768584/

On the other hand it's not the first program that invokes false positives. I for one have no reason to doubt Mr. Fay.

But why even bother, wagtunes? From my experience you'll use it for two days and then move on to the next download.

[whyterabbyt]

There's indeed a virus warning (8/57 scanners) when checking the file with online tools: https://www.virustotal.com/de/file/6a7a ... 433768584/

On the other hand it's not the first program that invokes false positives. I for one have no reason to doubt Mr. Fay.

But why even bother, wagtunes? From my experience you'll use it for two days and then move on to the next download.

Given that it now transpires he only tried 6 months ago, but not since, and he hasnt tried to find some alternative, but instead insists on categorising his browser problem as something Martin 'refuses' to fix, then you're probably right.
Puts the 'I cant buy it so it should be free' closer to the context I suspected, as well.

[wagtunes]

Well, I went to another PC, downloaded it from there (it worked) and then transferred it to my music PC and installed the demo, first creating a restore point in case something went wrong.

Brought it up in MuLab as it's a bit more stable than Cubase. Instinctively, because the synth is so old, I brought up MuLab 32 bit hoping it wouldn't work. It did. Which means this is a 32 bit VSTi which makes this all moot. I no longer purchase 32 bit VSTs because they don't ALWAYS work in Cubase 7, even with JBridge, which is my main DAW.

So this whole thing, for me anyway, has become a total waste of my time.

Not that I'm surprised in the least.

[whyterabbyt]

So this whole thing, for me anyway, has become a total waste of my time.

And ours.

Not that I'm surprised in the least.

About this as the denouement? Im certainly not. Laughably predictable.

[fluffy_little_something]

With me it is the other way round: as long as not everything I want to use is 64-bit, I will stick to my 32-bit DAW and plugins. I suppose if I used huge sample libraries it would make a difference, but not with normal synths, where CPU is more of an issue.

[elassi]

Back to topic, the wonderful VAZm that is:

Anyone ever tried to realize complete songs in VAZm? You know it's possible due to its outstanding sequence capabilities. Here's an early example (made in 2004): transposer3.

Just hit play after loading.

*There are three percussion samples included that you'll need to select upon opening the bank for the first time.

[pdxindy]

If your livelihood depends on selling whatever it is you're selling, you find a way to sell it. So obviously his livelihood does not depend on selling this synth. I mean if it did, how is he surviving all these months with no income?

I doubt he has ever lived on the income but certainly not in a long time. My guess is that it's been a hobby for him. Look at the rudimentary website. There are almost no audio demos and none for the flagship VAZ Modular. Do a youtube search and you find next to nothing on Vaz. For years, it has been invisible. Here and there on KVR there is a thread about Vaz modular and a few people talk about how they like it.

[wagtunes]

If your livelihood depends on selling whatever it is you're selling, you find a way to sell it. So obviously his livelihood does not depend on selling this synth. I mean if it did, how is he surviving all these months with no income?

I doubt he has ever lived on the income but certainly not in a long time. My guess is that it's been a hobby for him. Look at the rudimentary website. There are almost no audio demos and none for the flagship VAZ Modular. Do a youtube search and you find next to nothing on Vaz. For years, it has been invisible. Here and there on KVR there is a thread about Vaz modular and a few people talk about how they like it.

Even more puzzling why he doesn't just let people download it and enjoy using it if they want. And I say that even though, since it's 32 bit, I won't be using it anyway.

[elassi]

For years, it has been invisible.

Not for us.

Btw, still one of the most sexy product packagings of the industry :




Side note: Long before the world cried for "trance gates" it was possible with VAZ+ thanks to its in-built sequencer.

[GaryG]

Even more puzzling why he doesn't just let people download it and enjoy using it if they want.

Reading between the lines but it seems he still values Vaz from the mail you posted, he'd rather be selling it than not. But it doesn't follow he should just give it away with a shrug then. It's his intellectual property that he's worked long and hard on, maybe he's hoping someone comes along and makes him an offer (Apple? )

[wagtunes]

Even more puzzling why he doesn't just let people download it and enjoy using it if they want.

Reading between the lines but it seems he still values Vaz from the mail you posted, he'd rather be selling it than not. But it doesn't follow he should just give it away with a shrug then. It's his intellectual property that he's worked long and hard on, maybe he's hoping someone comes along and makes him an offer (Apple? )

Hey, that would work for me. Maybe even somebody who would upgrade it to 64 bit. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.