The MUX Modular 6.5.27 pre-release packages are available in http://www.mutools.com/forsythia
What's new: http://www.mutools.com/mulab-mux-65-change-log.html (=common change log for MuLab and MUX Modular)
All feedback very welcome!
MUX Modular 6.5.29 released
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- KVRAF
- 13865 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Much appreciated. I'll be trying out the 32bit version in Audacity at some point as MuX is better at finding plugins than Audacity is. I'm hoping they'll work nicely together.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 13865 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
I had one, non-reproducible crash with Spiral Echo - but it seems basically stable. I used it with some other presets and was able to apply an effect I patched together. I've not tried it with any VSTs yet (I've not installed any 32bit ones other than MSED). The crash could have been down to Audacity (I've only just started using the latest release, so I've yet to get a feel for how stable it is).
Speaking of MSED... I tried to patch up a Stereo to Mid-Side patch but the splitter / combinator modules obviously output "mono", which, when "mixed" to stereo on an audio out result in a gain in dB. I'm sure there's something obvious I'm missing. Any clues?
Speaking of MSED... I tried to patch up a Stereo to Mid-Side patch but the splitter / combinator modules obviously output "mono", which, when "mixed" to stereo on an audio out result in a gain in dB. I'm sure there's something obvious I'm missing. Any clues?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 13865 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 13865 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
I mean: If you split a stereo signal and then combine the mono left and right signals again, it will result in the original signal, no volume change. So i'm not sure what you mean.
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- KVRian
- 855 posts since 3 Mar, 2009
There is a mid/side patch in the factory lib under MonoStereo.
There are some gain issues to be taken care.
Take a mono signal. First you add Left + Right = 2 x input. When combinig back to stereo, you have MID at Left AND Right. So, you basically have twice doubled levels.
There are some gain issues to be taken care.
Take a mono signal. First you add Left + Right = 2 x input. When combinig back to stereo, you have MID at Left AND Right. So, you basically have twice doubled levels.
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
The Mid-Side Processor patch is fine if the processing it provides is the processing you want, as are the other MidSide patches. They are not what I want to do, unfortunately. It would be easier simply to have "Stereo L/R Pair to M/S Pair" as one patch and "M/S Pair to Stereo L/R Pair" as another patch (with "pair" being one MuX audio connector point).
Maybe something like this:
"Stereo L/R Pair to M/S Pair" = Audio In -> Stereo Splitter -> Audio Balancer 2 -> 1 (M -> -6dB) (S -> -6dB) -> Audio Out
"M/S Pair to Stereo L/R Pair" = Audio In -> Audio Balancer 1 -> 2 (M -> +6dB) (S -> +6dB) -> Stereo Combiner -> Audio Out
I'll have to give that a try. (It's just I noticed the inverter in the M/S patch and I'm hesitant to do something too simple.)
Maybe something like this:
"Stereo L/R Pair to M/S Pair" = Audio In -> Stereo Splitter -> Audio Balancer 2 -> 1 (M -> -6dB) (S -> -6dB) -> Audio Out
"M/S Pair to Stereo L/R Pair" = Audio In -> Audio Balancer 1 -> 2 (M -> +6dB) (S -> +6dB) -> Stereo Combiner -> Audio Out
I'll have to give that a try. (It's just I noticed the inverter in the M/S patch and I'm hesitant to do something too simple.)
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- KVRian
- 855 posts since 3 Mar, 2009
It's really dead simple.
Stereo (L/R) to M/S:
M=L+R
S=L-R
And back
(L+R)+(L-R) = 2*L
(L+R)-(L-R) = 2*R
So, it's only adding and an inverter.
Plus you need the level adjustment in the back conversion. (I didn't research properly yesterday)
Stereo (L/R) to M/S:
M=L+R
S=L-R
And back
(L+R)+(L-R) = 2*L
(L+R)-(L-R) = 2*R
So, it's only adding and an inverter.
Plus you need the level adjustment in the back conversion. (I didn't research properly yesterday)
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
There is no MuX module that outputs a single audio out with M/S on it -- you get a pair of outs, one with M and one with S. That's effectively two channels for M (a "mono" channel inside MuX) and two channels for S (a second "mono"). If you simply connect those four channels to a two channel Audio Out module, you get unwanted signal amplitude gain (2*M, 2*S). Hence my thinking I'd need to stick the Audio Balancer 2->1 in with -6dB on both input pairs.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 13865 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
New MUX Modular VST 6.5.28 RC version in http://www.mutools.com/forsythia
Latest MUX Modular plug-in related changes:
Latest MUX Modular plug-in related changes:
- Drag-dropping a parameter on an envelope part editor not starting at 1.1.0 was not showing a proper drag point. Fixed.
- Finetuned behaviour when drag-dropping a parameter onto an envelope editor while the parameter is being automated.
- Multi-sample zone "Gain" parameter display was not showing the right dB value. Fixed.
- More relaxed auto-delete for unused sequences and samples. (less auto-deletes)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 13865 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
There already are 2 new M6.5 specific videos onKTlin wrote:Will you make a video showing the main improvements in this new version like the one you made for the 6.4.18?
And more videos will come. Best to subscribe to MuTools' youtube channel.
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- KVRian
- 739 posts since 20 Jul, 2009
Great! Thanksmutools wrote:There already are 2 new M6.5 specific videos on
When I checked your youtube channel two days ago there was no video for the 6.5, but I see you just uploaded them yesterday.