Considering Omnisphere 2

[LFO8]

If there's one feature i'd like to see that i've not seen on any other synth I know of bar the Nord Lead 4 and A1, is a mutate patch option, which gives you a randomly generated patch based on intelligent randomisation of certain parameters. It's amazing for dialling in something you like, then being able to get a load of similar patches that are based on it. Very good for layering up or alternative versions.

Try the following: If you have a patch you like the sound of, hit Soundmatch. Then do not select any other preset just yet, but select Soundlock > lock all. Now you have something very similar to the feature you described.

[noiseboyuk]

Fair points on the Orb. And Barry's tip above is great - I'm still learning the power of Lock All, it's wonderous...

[barryfell]

If there's one feature i'd like to see that i've not seen on any other synth I know of bar the Nord Lead 4 and A1, is a mutate patch option, which gives you a randomly generated patch based on intelligent randomisation of certain parameters. It's amazing for dialling in something you like, then being able to get a load of similar patches that are based on it. Very good for layering up or alternative versions.

Try the following: If you have a patch you like the sound of, hit Soundmatch. Then do not select any other preset just yet, but select Soundlock > lock all. Now you have something very similar to the feature you described.

Ooooh nice idea! Thanks.

Edit: Just been playing around with it. It's good, but the mutate sound on the Nord seems more capable of generating sounds that compliment the original better, as they are all intelligent variations of the original patch rather than parameter locks, so the small changes to envelopes etc that mutate does make it sound better to me. It's hard to explain without you having used it. It's just amazing when you using it to stack mutated versions with the original, and then another unique function as far as I know of brings it all together with multi-focus, so you can control all layers at once from the panel, which is a pain to do on most layered synths, such as Omni, without going and assigning parts to say the mod wheel. It's such an incredibly fast workflow on the Nord Lead's.

Still though, great tip, and i'll certainly be using it, so thanks again!

[LFO8]

It almost feels like cheating. That's how fast it can be coming up with new sounds in Omni that way instead of programming a patch from scratch.

[barryfell]

It almost feels like cheating. That's how fast it can be coming up with new sounds in Omni that way instead of programming a patch from scratch.

Yeah I was just about to say that actually. The mutate function on the Nord Lead's feels even more like cheating since it's literally just one button you press and you're like, "wow", save!

[C-note]

Since you (OP) like ambient give Sample Logic's Xosphere a listen.

[synzh]

C-note, thanks, I had looked at Xosphere a while back too; looking at it again now, as I see it has a reputation as a sort of competitor to Omnisphere on the atmospheric side of sounds, and has good reviews

[noiseboyuk]

C-note, thanks, I had looked at Xosphere a while back too; looking at it again now, as I see it has a reputation as a sort of competitor to Omnisphere on the atmospheric side of sounds, and has good reviews

Yes, well worth considering. It covers about 5% of Omni 2's ground for only 60% of the cost.

[synzh]

Ya I think this is why I wound up dismissing it in the past. Decent, but not that at price point, which seems to be a fairly large consensus. Besides that - I would guess that O2 has and will continue to have more preset developers creating soundbanks for it.

[MarlaPodolski]

If there's one feature i'd like to see that i've not seen on any other synth I know of bar the Nord Lead 4 and A1, is a mutate patch option, which gives you a randomly generated patch based on intelligent randomisation of certain parameters. It's amazing for dialling in something you like, then being able to get a load of similar patches that are based on it. Very good for layering up or alternative versions.

Edit: Just been playing around with it. It's good, but the mutate sound on the Nord seems more capable of generating sounds that compliment the original better, as they are all intelligent variations of the original patch rather than parameter locks, so the small changes to envelopes etc that mutate does make it sound better to me. It's hard to explain without you having used it. It's just amazing when you using it to stack mutated versions with the original, and then another unique function as far as I know of brings it all together with multi-focus, so you can control all layers at once from the panel, which is a pain to do on most layered synths, such as Omni, without going and assigning parts to say the mod wheel. It's such an incredibly fast workflow on the Nord Lead's.

Please, could a few more of you with hands-on experience with both Nord and Omni weigh in on this? I have the Nord Lead 4. So, hypothetical case: if I could only have one of these, which one should I keep? I'm leaning toward just sticking with the Nord. What do you all have to say? Kindly persuade me either way.

[cocoazenith]

If there's one feature i'd like to see that i've not seen on any other synth I know of bar the Nord Lead 4 and A1, is a mutate patch option, which gives you a randomly generated patch based on intelligent randomisation of certain parameters. It's amazing for dialling in something you like, then being able to get a load of similar patches that are based on it. Very good for layering up or alternative versions.

Edit: Just been playing around with it. It's good, but the mutate sound on the Nord seems more capable of generating sounds that compliment the original better, as they are all intelligent variations of the original patch rather than parameter locks, so the small changes to envelopes etc that mutate does make it sound better to me. It's hard to explain without you having used it. It's just amazing when you using it to stack mutated versions with the original, and then another unique function as far as I know of brings it all together with multi-focus, so you can control all layers at once from the panel, which is a pain to do on most layered synths, such as Omni, without going and assigning parts to say the mod wheel. It's such an incredibly fast workflow on the Nord Lead's.

Please, could a few more of you with hands-on experience with both Nord and Omni weigh in on this? I have the Nord Lead 4. So, hypothetical case: if I could only have one of these, which one should I keep? I'm leaning toward just sticking with the Nord. What do you all have to say? Kindly persuade me either way.

From the top of my mind. I think that Nord's oscillators sound better than Omnisphere's DSP oscillators.
I'm talking about the raw, unaltered sound. Of course you can better Omni's oscillator sound by using modulation/effects but that's not the point I'm trying to make.

[wagtunes]

Here's my 2 cents for whatever they're worth.

The only reason I bought Omnisphere is because I sold a bunch of hardware synths to be able to pay for it. I do not feel any soft synth, no matter how good it is, is worth $500, especially when you've already got hundreds of synths in your collection. But if the money is not a concern to you, this doesn't apply.

So the question is, do you need it given what you already own (which I don't know what that is so I can't comment on it)?

Assuming you've got a good VA, maybe a wavetable synth and maybe something like Padshop Pro for granular, no, you don't need Omnisphere. It's a great synth. It sounds like nothing else. It's very distinctive. It's versatile. You can get lost programming it. You'll never run out of ideas.

But you can get similar sounds from combining other synths. Not identical, but similar. If you don't buy Omnisphere, you won't miss it. Life will go on and you can still make great music that sounds good.

And after spending way too much money on way too many soft synths, that is pretty much how I now feel about all of them. There is not one synth that I now own that I'd fight to keep if somebody tried to take it away from me. There are a few that come close. Omnisphere is one of them.

But in the grand scheme of things, no synth is a must have.

If you don't think that's true, listen to some of the old electronic music tracks from the 70s and 80s that were made on maybe 2 or 3 synths tops and sounded amazing.

Omnisphere is a great synth, but you won't die if you don't get it.

[neverenoughfunk]

Here's my 2 cents for whatever they're worth.

The only reason I bought Omnisphere is because I sold a bunch of hardware synths to be able to pay for it. I do not feel any soft synth, no matter how good it is, is worth $500, especially when you've already got hundreds of synths in your collection. But if the money is not a concern to you, this doesn't apply.

So the question is, do you need it given what you already own (which I don't know what that is so I can't comment on it)?

Assuming you've got a good VA, maybe a wavetable synth and maybe something like Padshop Pro for granular, no, you don't need Omnisphere. It's a great synth. It sounds like nothing else. It's very distinctive. It's versatile. You can get lost programming it. You'll never run out of ideas.

But you can get similar sounds from combining other synths. Not identical, but similar. If you don't buy Omnisphere, you won't miss it. Life will go on and you can still make great music that sounds good.

And after spending way too much money on way too many soft synths, that is pretty much how I now feel about all of them. There is not one synth that I now own that I'd fight to keep if somebody tried to take it away from me. There are a few that come close. Omnisphere is one of them.

But in the grand scheme of things, no synth is a must have.

If you don't think that's true, listen to some of the old electronic music tracks from the 70s and 80s that were made on maybe 2 or 3 synths tops and sounded amazing.

Omnisphere is a great synth, but you won't die if you don't get it.

i have to ask... wasn't you that individuals that kept repeating how you were not going to update to Omni 2? i believe you said how you just purchased Omni 1 but could not see updating to Omni 2 because of the price? i would be wrong here...

i ask because... in your signature it indicated that you OWN Omni 2...

[wagtunes]

Here's my 2 cents for whatever they're worth.

The only reason I bought Omnisphere is because I sold a bunch of hardware synths to be able to pay for it. I do not feel any soft synth, no matter how good it is, is worth $500, especially when you've already got hundreds of synths in your collection. But if the money is not a concern to you, this doesn't apply.

So the question is, do you need it given what you already own (which I don't know what that is so I can't comment on it)?

Assuming you've got a good VA, maybe a wavetable synth and maybe something like Padshop Pro for granular, no, you don't need Omnisphere. It's a great synth. It sounds like nothing else. It's very distinctive. It's versatile. You can get lost programming it. You'll never run out of ideas.

But you can get similar sounds from combining other synths. Not identical, but similar. If you don't buy Omnisphere, you won't miss it. Life will go on and you can still make great music that sounds good.

And after spending way too much money on way too many soft synths, that is pretty much how I now feel about all of them. There is not one synth that I now own that I'd fight to keep if somebody tried to take it away from me. There are a few that come close. Omnisphere is one of them.

But in the grand scheme of things, no synth is a must have.

If you don't think that's true, listen to some of the old electronic music tracks from the 70s and 80s that were made on maybe 2 or 3 synths tops and sounded amazing.

Omnisphere is a great synth, but you won't die if you don't get it.

i have to ask... wasn't you that individuals that kept repeating how you were not going to update to Omni 2? i believe you said how you just purchased Omni 1 but could not see updating to Omni 2 because of the price? i would be wrong here...

i ask because... in your signature it indicated that you OWN Omni 2...

I did eventually update to Omni 2 for business reasons after doing some analysis based on projected sales of a sound library. Yes, very mercenary. Musically, I could have probably lived without the upgrade. But the demand for 3rd party libs ultimately made me bite the bullet and get it.

But no, it is not a must have synth for purely music making purposes.

No synth is.

[neverenoughfunk]

Here's my 2 cents for whatever they're worth.

The only reason I bought Omnisphere is because I sold a bunch of hardware synths to be able to pay for it. I do not feel any soft synth, no matter how good it is, is worth $500, especially when you've already got hundreds of synths in your collection. But if the money is not a concern to you, this doesn't apply.

So the question is, do you need it given what you already own (which I don't know what that is so I can't comment on it)?

Assuming you've got a good VA, maybe a wavetable synth and maybe something like Padshop Pro for granular, no, you don't need Omnisphere. It's a great synth. It sounds like nothing else. It's very distinctive. It's versatile. You can get lost programming it. You'll never run out of ideas.

But you can get similar sounds from combining other synths. Not identical, but similar. If you don't buy Omnisphere, you won't miss it. Life will go on and you can still make great music that sounds good.

And after spending way too much money on way too many soft synths, that is pretty much how I now feel about all of them. There is not one synth that I now own that I'd fight to keep if somebody tried to take it away from me. There are a few that come close. Omnisphere is one of them.

But in the grand scheme of things, no synth is a must have.

If you don't think that's true, listen to some of the old electronic music tracks from the 70s and 80s that were made on maybe 2 or 3 synths tops and sounded amazing.

Omnisphere is a great synth, but you won't die if you don't get it.

i have to ask... wasn't you that individuals that kept repeating how you were not going to update to Omni 2? i believe you said how you just purchased Omni 1 but could not see updating to Omni 2 because of the price? i would be wrong here...

i ask because... in your signature it indicated that you OWN Omni 2...

I did eventually update to Omni 2 for business reasons after doing some analysis based on projected sales of a sound library. Yes, very mercenary. Musically, I could have probably lived without the upgrade. But the demand for 3rd party libs ultimately made me bite the bullet and get it.

But no, it is not a must have synth for purely music making purposes.

No synth is.

first off... i did not question Omni 2 being a must have synth... but i do enjoy it... two different things there... the BUSINESS REASONS sound pretty professional by the way... what i find FUNNY... the BUSINESS REASONS were always there... you kept going on and on about WHY you were NOT going to UPDATE to Omni 2... i believe... i even questioned you THEN about your statements about Omni 2... just funny how you OWN Omni 2 today...

nothing to do with a MUST HAVE SYNTH... but HOW the wind is BLOWING...

to the OP... if purchasing Omis 2 is on your mind TODAY... you are either going to buy it TODAY, TOMORROW or THE NEXT DAY...

this individual who this message is a response to is a PRIME EXAMPLE of what i am talking about...

Enjoy Your Day Today!!!