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ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 12:12 am

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MachineClaw · Post by **MachineClaw** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:53 pm

nope. Omnisphere doesn't have the typical Sax, piano, guitar sounds.

now, it does have a burning piano, twisted guitars, chant vocal throat singers.

I have lots of hardware and lots of VST plugins. I think I have only used 1 or 2 piano sounds ever.

I don't play live gigs. I don't really care for bread and butter sounds as a requirement for a synth.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:12 pm

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Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:19 pm

MachineClaw wrote:nope. Omnisphere doesn't have the typical Sax, piano, guitar sounds.

That is a big plus. There is thirteen to the dozen romplers already that comes with that content

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:22 pm

TheoM wrote:
MachineClaw wrote:nope. Omnisphere doesn't have the typical Sax, piano, guitar sounds.

now, it does have a burning piano, twisted guitars, chant vocal throat singers.

I have lots of hardware and lots of VST plugins. I think I have only used 1 or 2 piano sounds ever.

I don't play live gigs. I don't really care for bread and butter sounds as a requirement for a synth.

hmm, 12,000 sounds and no basic ones.. that's just REALLY weird imo.

It's actually not that weird. Omnisphere is a synthesizer that also uses sampled sources. There are plenty of your typical basic bread 'n butter synth sounds. These real world sounds mentioned above are not actually basic sounds. They are highly nuanced physical instruments and to get close to accuracy with these requires heavy sampling, usually with round robin and scripting to handle types of expression. Have you seen the sizes of sampled piano instruments these days? Those are done well with Kontakt and people buy them who specifically want a good piano. There are actual a lot of really nice guitar patches in omnisphere. Again not meant to emulate every possible technique on the guitar (that would take too much space), but nice as the basis of basic guitar tones. In fact they some of my favorite guitar type patches.

If omnisphere included all the real world instruments people wanted, the library would be too big. It's purpose is stuff conducive to sound design.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:23 pm

Numanoid wrote:
MachineClaw wrote:nope. Omnisphere doesn't have the typical Sax, piano, guitar sounds.
That is a big plus. There is thirteen to the dozen romplers already that comes with that content

True true. Pick up Rapture Pro. It's got all the sounds of Discovery Pro, I'm told. That should do it for you. If you need more detailed instruments, pick up Kontakt or some Kontakt player based libraries.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:26 pm

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Sparky77 · Post by **Sparky77** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:27 pm

MachineClaw wrote:nope. Omnisphere doesn't have the typical Sax, piano, guitar sounds.

Why is this?

These are bread and butter sounds....?

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:28 pm

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Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:31 pm

Sparky77 wrote:Why is this?
These are bread and butter sounds....?

But sometimes you need wine and roses

I mean, why pay $500 to get bread and butter

Sparky77 · Post by **Sparky77** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:38 pm

Numanoid wrote:
Sparky77 wrote:Why is this?
These are bread and butter sounds....?
But sometimes you need wine and roses

I mean, why pay $500 to get bread and butter

Well, if I am paying $500, it would be very nice if it has a usable Piano.
A good Piano IS wine and roses.

This is an instrument (Piano) that is used in almost every genre of music, not to mention sax.

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:39 pm

TheoM wrote:My point were on the basis that quite a few of the reviews say it is the best single product one can have in their collection. How can it be in this case? The reviews are inaccurate - they should say, omni + halion sonic for example, covers all sounds. Or omni + kontakt.

i am sure komplete plus omni really is all one would ever need in their lifetime to cover absolutely every kind of sound imaginable.. that is the smart way to do it. I often feel like updating to komplete ultimate and buying omni and trilian, and selling absolutely everything else I have (besides alchemy now of course as it;'s in logic lol0.

Actually Omni + Komplete will leave you with a fair few gaping holes (and this from a huge fan of both). Good luck finding a good bassoon. That said, by about K12 or K13 we'd probably be getting awfully close to covering all bases (and basses).

Of course you can say that Omni is the best or most essential product in your collection, and at the same time know it won't cover everything you'll ever need. Your car might be the most useful product you own, but I bet it makes lousy coffee and is hopeless as a dishwasher.

Think of Omni as what it is - a synth. A great synth with a huge well of samples on which to draw for manipulation, alongside its own wavetables. It's never been a workstation, I don't think it ever will and I don't want it to be.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:40 pm

I just accidentally Omnisphere 2!

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:50 pm

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noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:55 pm

TheoM wrote:no the review was saying it was the most important single instrument anyone should have - like it covers everything - but it doesn't.

Anyway, i didn't mean one couldn't add sample packs to kontakt - things go on special and group buys all the time.. to fill komplete's orchestral gaps would not be a huge financial undertaking. Kontakt has everything available for it.

And that way you only see in your DAW: spectrasonics and NI.

You know to pull up kontakt when you want acoustic for example - and you will find what you need and if you don't, just buy an add on but you still don't need more clutter and extra vst's themselves.

Wow, do you have a link for that review? It sounds like either it was badly written or you misread it.

If include everything that's ever been released for Kontakt... Well yeah, you'd be pretty well covered outside synths, and your bank balance would be considerably reduced. But you did originally say Komplete.

Considering Omnisphere 2