Guitar players, The soundclick MP3 demo page got updated !

[Lady J]

Thanks Lady J, it is working now !

So, its 4:31am here, I will work your takes when I get up again.

Cheers,

I look forward to hearing them.

[luka2807]

No, not at all, NI Guitar Rig is crap for $400,
a total waste of money for the one who buys it.
Amplitube is way better, closer to the real thing
and still not that great.

I wouldnt go as far. AFAIC, GR has much more potential then Amplitube. Amplitube is much longer on the market, and thanks to kind people like Lady J, there are some presets that are showing the better side of it. However, Amplitube has much more od "digital" within and sometimes it sounds like those '80 digital effect units (think Zoom and similar crap). OTOH, GR is still missing high gain amp models and it definately is not software worth 400 USD, at least for now. But, if you're located in Nashville and playing coutry GR kicks some serious ass

heres a High gain shootout (GR vs AT vs POD)
http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.p ... id%3D12701

[Midiworks]

No, not at all, NI Guitar Rig is crap for $400,
a total waste of money for the one who buys it.
Amplitube is way better, closer to the real thing
and still not that great.

I wouldnt go as far. AFAIC, GR has much more potential then Amplitube. Amplitube is much longer on the market, and thanks to kind people like Lady J, there are some presets that are showing the better side of it. However, Amplitube has much more od "digital" within and sometimes it sounds like those '80 digital effect units (think Zoom and similar crap). OTOH, GR is still missing high gain amp models and it definately is not software worth 400 USD, at least for now. But, if you're located in Nashville and playing coutry GR kicks some serious ass

heres a High gain shootout (GR vs AT vs POD)
http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.p ... id%3D12701

Let me put it this way,
Turn off all the FX, you can leave the amp, EQ and speaker simulation on.
Thats it.

What do you have now ?

Right, what I wrote before above...

Wait for the Lady J exemples !

[Midiworks]

Sorry, folks, we have to work on the SoundClick server the whole night. Please check back on Monday, we apologize for the inconvenience.

So, we have to wait to hear Lady J...

[dimitar]

Hello

here is some Vai like chops and licks

sorry for low bit rate Mp3 its only 128 kb
but i dont have ftp

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/dimit ... vmusic.htm

1st song in my sound click

is dry recorded Ibanez

"Midiworks - VST - Guitar AMP"

VAI - sound
http://www.carvin.com/vai/
http://www.carvin.com/vai/vaidemo.mp3

[Midiworks]

here is some Vai like chops and licks
is dry recorded Ibanez

"Midiworks - VST - Guitar AMP"

Hell, mitkofen, you can play !!!
Really amazing.

Could you please play also something in the same way as the Vai demo link you posted ?
Then I try to get as close to that sound as I can.

Soundclick is back online,
but no stream or download linking works anymore...

[luka2807]

Hey Dimitar, nice to see you here.

Guys, you should hear this dude playing. Visit his soundclick website. Steve Vai has some serious competition here.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/dimit ... vmusic.htm

[Sascha Franck]

The question is: Does one need to compete with Steve Vai instead of coming up with something original?

I agree, Dimitar is playing VERY well, I miss something original though, you can tell by every note where he's coming from.
But then, it's not that easy to sound original. One should at least try though.

[Lunch Money]

Originality in soloing technique is overrated. I didn't listen to the clip, but I find that most people who reach that level of proficiency CAN play originally as well, but in a flurry of notes it's tricky to find a voice.

Meanwhile, I can tell myself when I play blues that I'm playing "me" and with "feeling", but part of the truth is that I also don't have the proficiency to play the shredding style anyways, and so I HAVE to rely on 'emotive' playing. I don't even have the option.

Greg

[Midiworks]

Sascha, in general I agree...
But there was a time I wanted to be the next
Carlos Santana I played all his songs up and down.
One day I realized that there is already ONE Santana...
But in the end, it helped me quite a lot that I went
through all this, with my playing.

Rock on Dimitar !

[Sascha Franck]

I tried to NEVER copy a single note (unless I had to, for some stupid transcription tests during my jazz/rock/pop studies at the music university).
Still, I can find a lot in my own playing where I'm kinda copying styles, approaches or even licks (even if I never practice any licks made up by anybody but me).

I can only imagine things becoming worse once I'd be learning licks from others.

And yes, IMO you CAN hear it in their playing, if people practiced "third party" licks too much. At least I think I can.

That's why I love players such as Fripp, Belew, Alomar, Frisell, Scofield, Tuck Andress, whatever - they have a unique voice on their instrument, whereas 99% of those metal/rock widdlers don't. Vai might be some sort of exception though. Still, nothing worth the effort of copying him.

[Midiworks]

I guess I am getting old on years...
My little story happend when I was between 15-20 years old.
That was a long, long time ago.

But I still feel like, hm... around 30', I'd say.


Cheers

And I always wanted to invent someting for the guitar,
I think finaly, after all those years I did it !

[Lunch Money]

I can't say that I ever learned a single lick by another person, but that's mostly because I'm too lazy.

I think it's just as much of a mistake to actively avoid sounding like someone else as it is to actively SEEK such a thing.

Both are counter-productive to letting your natural voice come out because you're always second-guessing yourself. If I happen to play a lick that reminds me of Castles Made of Sand, I think to myself, "Cool, that sounded like Jimi!" instead of "Oh crap, that sounded too much like Jimi, I'd better try something else."

As a result, I really enjoy playing guitar, and I'm enjoying song-writing a lot more now that I've accepted that I don't have to be a pioneer to have fun. I'm not nearly talented enough to ever think that my personal style will matter one way or another to anyone, so I just do whatever sounds right for the song and whatever makes me smile when I play it.

Steve Vai *definitely* has his own voice, along with the others you listed. Andress, in particular, is one of my favourites.

Greg

[cbenci]

I saw Vai live in Melbourne last night with Billy Sheehan, Tony Mac Alpine and Dave Wiener. If you have the opportunity, go and see this show. Put everything everything you might think about the style of music aside and watch real muso's play the shit of out their instruments.

Vai puts on an incredible show and it illustrates just how many new bands and musicians have lost the art of performing.

[luka2807]

The question is: Does one need to compete with Steve Vai instead of coming up with something original?

I agree, Dimitar is playing VERY well, I miss something original though, you can tell by every note where he's coming from.
But then, it's not that easy to sound original. One should at least try though.

Basicly, I can agree with you. BUT, you cant create your own style if you do not have techique. You have to learn as much as possible about how other artists are creating their own music, and then you are ready to find your trade mark sound. There are many people using "originality" as an excuse for not having technique. You have to agree that it is much easier for i.e. Dimitar to find his own "sound" then for some "cool artist" to gather the skills Dimitar has.

Dimitar, keep up.