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[whyterabbyt]

I seid that the real things have more possibilities in context when i was speaking about Ace.

Except that you're not comparing one specific thing to another specific 'real thing' you're comparing it to a category of things.

And its a category of things which is intrinsically defined as being composed of any number of permutations of smaller things.

There isnt actually a specific real modular synth that has more possibilities than 'real modular synths'. Its an impossibility.

In other words you just said that a specific house has 'less possibilities than buildings'.

Unless you want to compare ACE to a single specific, completely defined real modular synth, then you've contributed nothing of any use.

[BDeep]

Guys, feeding the same troll again?

[chilly7]

I seid that the real things have more possibilities in context when i was speaking about Ace.

What "real thing" are you comparing ACE to then?

I mean, of course there are modular synthesizers with more features than ACE. But there are also modular synthesizers with less features. ACE even has some features that are not available in any analogue modular synthesizer. Hence one should not generally say "real thing has more functionality" - simply because it's not generally true.

For example Moog System 55.
Probably you now better then me other synthesizers which have features which Ace does not have.

[whyterabbyt]

For example Moog System 55.

At 35,000, 450 times the cost of ACE, it better had.

Although it doesnt actually have 450, 45 or even 4.5 times as many features.

However the only 'modular' Moog even close to the price of ACE (at about 3 times the price), the Werkstatt, has far less.

You're still not even a u-he customer, are you. And the synths you've said you have bought, like Synth Squad, well they're all missing features a Moog 55 has too, and yet you dont seem to spend all your time complaining about it on their forums. Why is that?

You know what? I dont believe for a second you'd buy ACE even if it did ten times what a System 55 would, you'd just keep wittering on, demanding more and more of Urs' resources. I doubt you know how to use the features ACE already has in the first place.

[whyterabbyt]

You're still not even a u-he customer, are you...
I dont believe for a second you'd buy .

Aside : I was curious about something so checked the numbers. Of chilly7's 480 posts, 420 or so of them have been in the u-he forums.
Back in 2012 he was 'going' to buy them 'when he got enough money'. Three years later he has a £3K mac, £2K worth of other gear, various plugins by other companies, and 400 or so more posts in the u-he forums saying what should be changed about the u-he plugins he's never bought, never saved up to buy, probably never will buy.

Does someone pay this guy to waste so much of Urs' time, or something?

[chk071]

Btw, arguing about quality and stuff, i think even the free Tyrell N6 is of very high quality sound wise. Don't know why ACE should be any worse, it sounded good when i demo'd it. But then, i don't know how serious that claim was.

[Krakatau]

Btw, arguing about quality and stuff, i think even the free Tyrell N6 is of very high quality sound wise. Don't know why ACE should be any worse, it sounded good when i demo'd it. But then, i don't know how serious that claim was.

BTW, ...strangely there's a fact to notice for some compulsives consumers, me included, often demo versions sounded better than their full products counterparts and i, for one, can't explain to myself this disturbing mystery...

[chk071]

Guess you gotta sleep a night over it, and judge again the next day.

[Echoes in the Attic]

That said, inspiration is important. If someone has got great ideas that trigger me, I'm all ears.

What about a drum machine that can synthesize LOTS of sounds? A kind of "the last drum machine you'll ever need"? Every single drum machine has only 1 clap type, 1 kick ... Its like to have 5 samples with variations. You would never say that about normal synthesizer. I think it's time develope away from these 80s-like extremly limited drum machines to really useful tools that are speciallized on a wide variety of percussion sounds. Best would be to combinate this with really intelligent pattern generator. There aren't many well thought midi tools on the market, I see there also space for innovation.

If I've missed a tool: sorry. But as far as I can see nobody did that. Because it's impossible? Or nobody is interested? Can't believe that.

Microtonic is along these lines (And there are others), where the different sounds are not specifically kick or snare etc. Each drum module is the same thing and can be used for any of these sounds.

I was thinking the other day that I would love to see u-he model some classic drum sounds like the 909 and 808 like was done with Diva, but of course with extra general non-modeled drum modules like microtonic. That would be cool. But definitely not before Zebra 3. I hope the inspiration has not fallen away for that. Seems like they were pumped about it a few years ago but I guess life got in the way. Sometimes when that happens it's hard to get back into the mind set you were in before so hopefully they still have the Zebra 3 vision and drive going on after all this time.

[pdxindy]

Excuse me if it was asked already but what about Ace 2?

What (except too resonant filters) is so bad about current Ace?

Nothing is bad... but I'd still love to have a quantizer, some lag generators, 2 more multiples... and a couple additional filter models from what u-he has learned about filters since ACE first came out...

either ACE 2 or ACE XL

Sounds like you need to buy Bazille?!

I have Bazille... love it...

ACE has its own sonic character... so yeah, I'd love a Bazille sized version of ACE

[Krakatau]

Guess you gotta sleep a night over it, and judge again the next day.

this is a statement undoubtedly full of wisdom !!!

[murnau]

You're still not even a u-he customer, are you...
I dont believe for a second you'd buy .

Aside : I was curious about something so checked the numbers. Of chilly7's 480 posts, 420 or so of them have been in the u-he forums.
Back in 2012 he was 'going' to buy them 'when he got enough money'. Three years later he has a £3K mac, £2K worth of other gear, various plugins by other companies, and 400 or so more posts in the u-he forums saying what should be changed about the u-he plugins he's never bought, never saved up to buy, probably never will buy.

Does someone pay this guy to waste so much of Urs' time, or something?

Haha.. Good find whyterabbyt! Thank you for the troll check..

[chilly7]

You're still not even a u-he customer, are you. And the synths you've said you have bought, like Synth Squad, well they're all missing features a Moog 55 has too, and yet you dont seem to spend all your time complaining about it on their forums. Why is that?

If i will have features i need i might be an Uhe castumer. So that's why i ask for features.

At 35,000, 450 times the cost of ACE, it better had.

Money has no value for me so i am not going to comment that junk. I measure success not in money but in love.In how much truly good i did to others.

[chilly7]

You're still not even a u-he customer, are you...
I dont believe for a second you'd buy .

Aside : I was curious about something so checked the numbers. Of chilly7's 480 posts, 420 or so of them have been in the u-he forums.
Back in 2012 he was 'going' to buy them 'when he got enough money'. Three years later he has a £3K mac, £2K worth of other gear, various plugins by other companies, and 400 or so more posts in the u-he forums saying what should be changed about the u-he plugins he's never bought, never saved up to buy, probably never will buy.

Does someone pay this guy to waste so much of Urs' time, or something?

I have civil war in my country right now so money are hard to find.

[chk071]

Guess you gotta sleep a night over it, and judge again the next day.

this is a statement undoubtedly full of wisdom !!!

Thanks. If only i would always act accordingly...