Anyone here use Hive?
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Re GUI, while I like big GUI's, Hive's is too big for my taste, it covers almost my entire screen. When I scale it to Sylenth's size, I can't read the labels anymore, I can hardly read them at 100% actually. There is so much empty space on that GUI, why are labels so small and weak? Is first-glance design really more important than usability? Why not pick more appropriate colors for fonts?
When I look at Hive next to Sylenth, Hive looks as if I were looking at it through sunglasses. What is the purpose of that?
Given the size of the GUI, maybe it would make sense to add a Collapse button in order to hide the entire keyboard/matrix panel.
When I look at Hive next to Sylenth, Hive looks as if I were looking at it through sunglasses. What is the purpose of that?
Given the size of the GUI, maybe it would make sense to add a Collapse button in order to hide the entire keyboard/matrix panel.
- KVRAF
- 24403 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
You can easily change the color of labels by editing the Hive.txt script file. Look for Label_Grey and change its hex code.
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- KVRAF
- 9144 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
This is a nice tip.EvilDragon wrote:You can easily change the color of labels by editing the Hive.txt script file. Look for Label_Grey and change its hex code.
And here are the codes if needed:
http://www.color-hex.com/color-names.html
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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OK, I see. But I am afraid I am not nerdy enough to mess with such files just in order to get the GUI right. I think that is a developer's task. Others can do it... 
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- KVRAF
- 3071 posts since 29 Sep, 2005
Indeed! Thank you E DEnGee wrote:This is a nice tip.EvilDragon wrote:You can easily change the color of labels by editing the Hive.txt script file. Look for Label_Grey and change its hex code.
And that is nice of you too EnGee, to provide the codesEnGee wrote:And here are the codes if needed:
http://www.color-hex.com/color-names.html
Cheers!
dsan
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- KVRAF
- 3071 posts since 29 Sep, 2005
In my mind he did do the job. I'm fairly certain the GUI came up during BETA and the current form is what was decided on.fluffy_little_something wrote:OK, I see. But I am afraid I am not nerdy enough to mess with such files just in order to get the GUI right. I think that is a developer's task. Others can do it...
To be able to make changes at the user level is even better - if one is so inclined.
If not, perhaps there are some that will be happy to assist - providing it doesn't break EULA of course.
JM2C
Cheers!
dsan
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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What are 16 waves per osc good for? I don't really hear much of a difference beyond, say, 6 or so, nothing that couldn't be achieved via adapting detuning. Same on Sylenth, 6 or 7 or 8 waves basically sound the same to me.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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dsan@mail.com wrote:In my mind he did do the job. I'm fairly certain the GUI came up during BETA and the current form is what was decided on.fluffy_little_something wrote:OK, I see. But I am afraid I am not nerdy enough to mess with such files just in order to get the GUI right. I think that is a developer's task. Others can do it...
To be able to make changes at the user level is even better - if one is so inclined.
If not, perhaps there are some that will be happy to assist - providing it doesn't break EULA of course.
JM2C
Cheers!
dsan
Yes, someone make a skin for users older than 40
- u-he
- 30176 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
There are Sylenth patches that have all 4 oscillators play the same pitch at 8 x unison. So we figured, we can do that with just two oscillators and the have some freedom to add suboscillators or else to it.fluffy_little_something wrote:What are 16 waves per osc good for? I don't really hear much of a difference beyond, say, 6 or so, nothing that couldn't be achieved via adapting detuning. Same on Sylenth, 6 or 7 or 8 waves basically sound the same to me.
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- KVRAF
- 3071 posts since 29 Sep, 2005
fluffy_little_something wrote:Yes, someone make a skin for users older than 40
I used to think my hearing was the most important thing.....
Until I got "over 40"
Now, I can't see, can't hear, won't listen, or look. (for reasons other than can't see).....
I will agree though a scalable GUI would be in good fashion
Cheers!
dsan
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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Oh my 32 waves at once, glad I never check the factory presetsUrs wrote:There are Sylenth patches that have all 4 oscillators play the same pitch at 8 x unison. So we figured, we can do that with just two oscillators and the have some freedom to add suboscillators or else to it.fluffy_little_something wrote:What are 16 waves per osc good for? I don't really hear much of a difference beyond, say, 6 or so, nothing that couldn't be achieved via adapting detuning. Same on Sylenth, 6 or 7 or 8 waves basically sound the same to me.
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- KVRAF
- 2747 posts since 13 Feb, 2012 from Amsterdam
I'm actually surprised there aren't been any skins of Hive, at least that I'm aware of. Most of the other U-He synths have a nice collection of alternative skins, and Hive, to me, seems easier to do.
- KVRAF
- 26927 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
And yet with Synthmaster, you cannot see 2 envelopes at the same time... so there is a LOT of tabbing aroundTrancit wrote:Nevertheless, this is a very abstract method and a bit hard to get one´s head around...the envelopes of i.e. Synthmaster are an (for me) ideal example of how it should be...Urs wrote:However, unlike Sylenth1 and much like a Virus one can modulate an envelope's Attack parameter by the envelope itself. Thus one can make it as exponential or logarithmic as one could wish for.
Hive gives all the main modules on one page without tabbing. One can see how all modules are set at one glance and edit without tabbing. The downside is that some functionality has been moved to the Mod Matrix, like the slope for envelope stages.
Taken by itself, I would also prefer dedicated slope controls like Synthmaster. I still find Hive much faster to use though since all 4 envelopes can be seen/edited at once. So in the end I prefer the overall approach of Hive.
And of course Sylenth has no slope control at all
- KVRian
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- 540 posts since 8 Jul, 2015 from Canada
noticed this as well, and i wish there were more.BDeep wrote:I'm actually surprised there aren't been any skins of Hive, at least that I'm aware of. Most of the other U-He synths have a nice collection of alternative skins, and Hive, to me, seems easier to do.
- KVRAF
- 4803 posts since 21 Jan, 2008 from oO

