Bitwig

panox80 · Post by **panox80** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:14 pm

in live you can do all what you want..stop.

if team deicide to unlock modular system and make the daw more elastic in some things ,maybe people starts to consider to buy this...

if we see 2.0 after 1 or 2 years i think only who enjoy to make tester continue to use this..because this is the reality...we are tester here.

i enjoy with this daw but i continue to make my works in ableton because is better,i want to do a thing,live do it!!!...if they started with modular unlock from 1.0 i think a lot of people consider to buy this daw(see max and reaktor history)...so,i really need to have a license that i don't use so much??

i really consider to sell this daw again..and when they are at 2.0 is too late to catch users from other daws,because other daw do something else better...hope they do the right choice in the future updates...else continue to stay with 0.77%

this is only my point of view and sorry for the offtopic

marry xmas

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:28 pm

So the constant cpu spikes I was getting with 1.3.5 are gone, but I still get a cpu spike here or there... big overall improvement!

ceasless · Post by **ceasless** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:07 am

Ogopogo wrote:Bitwig - Original Enterprise - all kinds of lights and colors flashing everywhere, kinda dark/exposure issues, some stuff too curvy going for flair, some stuff too sharp for comfort, kinda pudgy, specific tone
Live - Enterprise D - Clean, clear, inviting, spacious, not too busy, pretty grey, open minded

Get your own metaphor!

I couldn't disagree with you more. Live is sharp and caustic and makes me want to open something else. It's useful in spite of it's UX. To each their own, for which I must ask: why are you using Bitwig?

c-wave · Post by **c-wave** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:06 am

If Bitwig was anything like Live I wouldn't have touched it.. period!

and if anyone thinks that Bitwig devs will just be content with 2.0 you have no idea how these people think... period!

So if you don't know what this DAW currently is? or believe in where its going? easy; go and enjoy the bliss of following the herd!

I think I am an early adopter and early adopters never enjoyed easy.

Ogopogo · Post by **Ogopogo** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:30 am

ceasless wrote:
Ogopogo wrote:Bitwig - Original Enterprise - all kinds of lights and colors flashing everywhere, kinda dark/exposure issues, some stuff too curvy going for flair, some stuff too sharp for comfort, kinda pudgy, specific tone
Live - Enterprise D - Clean, clear, inviting, spacious, not too busy, pretty grey, open minded
Get your own metaphor!

I couldn't disagree with you more. Live is sharp and caustic and makes me want to open something else. It's useful in spite of it's UX. To each their own, for which I must ask: why are you using Bitwig?

Well Bitwig does a lot that Live doesn't. It would be a big list.

Beerhunter · Post by **Beerhunter** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:40 pm

Guys please we all had this discussion over and over again...

Keep this threat clean based to the purpose it was meant to be, hunting bugs.Thank you.

Btw. use what fits you best and create nice music.

Cheers

powermat · Post by **powermat** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:12 pm

UncleMarty wrote:Those of you on windows, try installing the two following runtimes as it looks like it might help.....

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/downloa ... x?id=14632 Visual C ++ 2010 runtime libraries
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/downloa ... x?id=13523 Visual C ++ 2010 runtime libraries SP1

It may or may not fix it, but it certainly won't screw up anything

I've got some weird crashes with 1.3.5 (windows 10), screen goes to full grey and I have to log out. I've noticed that all of my task tray applications become actual windowed open programs on the alt+tab screen when it crashes. So I'm thinking that something fundamental is wrong. I also get a glitch that changes the title bar of Bitwig to the Windows XP standard title bar when clicking on a plugin or window that is not part of the main Bitwig window (VSTs or going to another application on a different monitor). The window function buttons or whatever (the minimize, restore and close buttons) aren't real, though. What I mean is that they are just a visual glitch and when I mouse over the actual location of the Bitwig window function buttons, they show up through the Windows XP title bar (I'll post a screen shot in a sec).

I've read these things on this forum or (the Bitwig Answers thing) before and I know that they've been submitted to support already, but I'll still send one in.

Question, though. Do I install any 32 bit versions of the above due to Bitwig.exe being 32 bit?

EDIT: this is what the titlebar looks like when it glitches:

And yes, Aero is enabled, newest drivers, and lots of frustration and lost time when the full grey screen crash happens (my autosaves have always been intact, though).

Andrei Marchenko · Post by **Andrei Marchenko** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:30 am

Two things that i still can't understand is:

a) Why we still can't rename devices?
b) Why we can't paint straight lines in velocity editor?

wtbit · Post by **wtbit** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:56 am

panox80 wrote:in live you can do all what you want..stop.

if team deicide to unlock modular system and make the daw more elastic in some things ,maybe people starts to consider to buy this...

if we see 2.0 after 1 or 2 years i think only who enjoy to make tester continue to use this..because this is the reality...we are tester here.

i enjoy with this daw but i continue to make my works in ableton because is better,i want to do a thing,live do it!!!...if they started with modular unlock from 1.0 i think a lot of people consider to buy this daw(see max and reaktor history)...so,i really need to have a license that i don't use so much??

i really consider to sell this daw again..and when they are at 2.0 is too late to catch users from other daws,because other daw do something else better...hope they do the right choice in the future updates...else continue to stay with 0.77%

this is only my point of view and sorry for the offtopic

marry xmas

While I agree that releasing without the modular system was definitely a miss, I understand that they first want a solid DAW before adding that functionality before. With that said, they have most definitely not lost consumers due to their decision. Bitwig 2.0 (as long as their milestones have been implemented) will be the most advanced DAW, with competitors struggling to catch up due to sloppy foundation. With artists such as Deadmau5 and Dodge & Fuski using this DAW already, when the live collaboration gets added, many others will be interested.

I also don't really get what you mean what you mean when you suggest that Bitwig isn't as capable as Ableton?

powermat · Post by **powermat** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:21 am

no one ever wrote:

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:56 am

u can see the top feature requests from AL beta forum

+ 11. Edit Multiple Midi-Clips (it's there so not my wish, just missing from the picture)

so if Live X will be Live 9 + Bitwig ...

Andrei Marchenko · Post by **Andrei Marchenko** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:11 pm

xbitz wrote: so if Live X will be Live 9 + Bitwig ...

And they will do it

But already with huge base of M4L devices + Push 2 + great in-build Live's devices and etc.

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:19 pm

Geek Model wrote:Two things that i still can't understand is:

a) Why we still can't rename devices?
b) Why we can't paint straight lines in velocity editor?

You can rename devices in inspector for a while now...

Andrei Marchenko · Post by **Andrei Marchenko** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:26 pm

OMG

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:31 pm

Geek Model wrote:OMG

Those "little" things in life...

Bitwig

KVR Audio

Bitwig Studio 1.3.6 RC-1