I've tried all of those ways of organizing stuff that you mention. They don't change the basic dynamic much at all. So instead of auditioning a long list of 200 possibilities, I do a search for a word term that might get me what I want which returns 15 results. So I audition them, but am not happy with any of them. Then I do a different search and so on. I do not find that words do a good job of describing the nuances of sounds (just look at threads about the word 'warm').david.beholder wrote:No I'm showing you that your issue is not with samples but with UI/Categoresation/Workflow etc. You don't need to scroll thru, there other ways of organizing - pre-sorting, tagging, description search etc.pdxindy wrote: No, you try to dismiss what I said but it stands (for me). I dislike scrolling through and auditioning long lists of samples. I am not going to spend my time on something that I dislike and feel un-creative with.
And the same problem is applicable to presets. And it's not drum samples vs drum synths anymore.
Then I find a sample set that sounds good at first glance. Then I play some notes and realize that while I like how it sounds at one velocity, I don't at another. Or later I decide I want to change something about it, then I am back to searching through other samples. Then I don't find a sample set that is just right so I start trying to layer them to get what I want... more sample searching. Big sample sets tend to be slow to load.
Yes, presets can have the same problem, if you treat presets like samples. But there is a flexibility there for someone who wants to do it differently. Each preset is also a template that if I know the synth well can be morphed into any other preset. Synthesis is more sonically diverse so the way samples make up for that is by having lots of them.
I like to use Geist which is sample based. However, I have very few samples for it. It is adept at sampling my own synths. So sometimes I make kits of my own synth presets for a particular use... It's a convenient way to reduce CPU and then when I am done, I delete the samples...
I would still prefer synthesis to samples even without the organizational down-side of samples. Samples are static recordings. A lot of effort goes into hiding that fact, but it is still so.

