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Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:01 pm

edited

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:02 pm

2ZrgE wrote:
chk071 wrote:... E.g. it's nobody's business which copy protection they use. It's not open source software or something. If you have a problem with it, or suspect it does something it shouldn't do on your computer, there's an easy way, get rid of the software, and never use it anymore, and never buy from the company anymore...
No matter what you do, just never ever talk about it. Especially not in a forum.

This especially goes for copy protection, marketing blah, GUI design, whatever.

Seriously?

Are YOU serious? There has been so much talk about it here that it drips out of the other end. Especially in threads which actually have nothing to do with the topic, would have understood it in a thread called "Tone2's vicious copy protection scheme" or similar regarding marketing or GUI design. Get real dude.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:09 pm

I have Saurus installed on two machines - one has a web connection, another one doesn't (my main DAW). Don't remember any single issue with Saurus on either of them. What in the world are you talking about?

Their marketing approach is indeed tasteless and stupid, but to me this seems funny rather than annoying.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:10 pm

recursive one wrote:
fmr wrote: Let's hope it doesn't fly too close to the sun and get burned, as it happened to his ancester
Following this logic, Saurus should extinct and Gladiator should be killed by other synths for someone's fun.

And also this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electra_complex

Just in case there's a doubt in someone's mind, I was being ironic (fixed that in my quote, and also in my original post)

Perhaps I should have added a wink

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:12 pm

fmr wrote: Perhaps I should have added a wink

Perhaps I should have done this too

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:13 pm

recursive one wrote:I have Saurus installed on two machines - one has a web connection, another one doesn't (my main DAW). Don't remember any single issue with Saurus on either of them. What in the world are you talking about?

There have been some issues (I experienced that) but they are related with the coexistence of Tone 2 plug-ins and iLOK protected plug-ins. For some reason I ignore, they seem to conflict in a very bad way

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:16 pm

Thanks, now I see, I don't have any ilocked stuff

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:21 pm

chk071 wrote:
2ZrgE wrote:
chk071 wrote:... E.g. it's nobody's business which copy protection they use. It's not open source software or something. If you have a problem with it, or suspect it does something it shouldn't do on your computer, there's an easy way, get rid of the software, and never use it anymore, and never buy from the company anymore...
No matter what you do, just never ever talk about it. Especially not in a forum.

This especially goes for copy protection, marketing blah, GUI design, whatever.

Seriously?
Are YOU serious? There has been so much talk about it here that it drips out of the other end. Especially in threads which actually have nothing to do with the topic, would have understood it in a thread called "Tone2's vicious copy protection scheme" or similar regarding marketing or GUI design. Get real dude.

You didn't get my point. Nevermind.

Not everyone understands irony I guess.

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:23 pm

fmr wrote:
recursive one wrote:
fmr wrote: Let's hope it doesn't fly too close to the sun and get burned, as it happened to his ancester
Following this logic, Saurus should extinct and Gladiator should be killed by other synths for someone's fun.

And also this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electra_complex
Just in case there's a doubt in someone's mind, I was being ironic (fixed that in my quote, and also in my original post) Perhaps I should have added a wink

Right, don't you ever talk foul about Tone2 stuff.

foosnark · Post by **foosnark** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:26 pm

wagtunes wrote:I think the problem is the basic "plasticness " of their sound. That's what's similar. But if you pull the specifics of each synth apart, there are differences. Some subtle, some not so subtle.

Agreed. That "plasticness" seems to be their signature sound in the last several synths, and something about it sets my teeth on edge. If Icarus has that same sound to it I'll be passing it up too, but I have to admit my curiosity is piqued at least.

VariKusBrainZ wrote:I'm just waiying for Rob Papen/Jon to release an updated version of Kubik. They are considering it

That'd be fantastic. I miss Kubik; I can't use it because of a lost license file way back when.

JonSolo · Post by **JonSolo** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:28 pm

I like Tone2's products and sound overall. I have all of their products (but then again I have most EVERYONE's products, heh). A year and a half ago I discovered something that I could not tell if it was Tone2 or UVI or Cubase. I got weird lockups. Sent a memo out to Tone2, UVI, and Steinberg. Tone2 took responsibility after a few days conferring with Steinberg and a fix was quickly released (within a few days) for each of the products.

Since then I have not noticed anything.

Looking forward to hearing this product.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:32 pm

edited. nvm

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:35 pm

What a thread

To Ingo

Good luck my friend. Seems some people make the confusion between the message and the messenger here.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:02 pm

Here's how I would describe the sound of Tone 2 VSTs.

Miss Universe

All the girls are different but they're all wearing the same bathing suits and all have the same perfect bodies. The hair color is different and some are a little shorter or taller but it's like a beauty assembly line. That's the overall sound of the Tone 2 synths.

But, if you really look at each individual girl, you'll notice things that make one more attractive to you than another, which is why you ultimately do have your one or two favorites when the competition ends and why ultimately somebody does win.

So they're all the same, but they're all different to a degree.

That's Tone 2

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:05 pm

2ZrgE wrote:
chk071 wrote:
2ZrgE wrote:
chk071 wrote:... E.g. it's nobody's business which copy protection they use. It's not open source software or something. If you have a problem with it, or suspect it does something it shouldn't do on your computer, there's an easy way, get rid of the software, and never use it anymore, and never buy from the company anymore...
No matter what you do, just never ever talk about it. Especially not in a forum.

This especially goes for copy protection, marketing blah, GUI design, whatever.

Seriously?
Are YOU serious? There has been so much talk about it here that it drips out of the other end. Especially in threads which actually have nothing to do with the topic, would have understood it in a thread called "Tone2's vicious copy protection scheme" or similar regarding marketing or GUI design. Get real dude.
You didn't get my point. Nevermind.

Not everyone understands irony I guess.

Well, i'm sorry, but it was difficult to get if you were being ironic. Seemed like a random reply i would get here when bringing up stuff like that. That alone shows how crappy Tone2 trheads here are. Real pretentious do-gooder shit.

Tone2 will release Icarus - 3D WaveTable Synthesizer