It's part of the Z3 project. They're working on the core audio and Urs said he would spend a year of R&D, so don't be in a hurry, but it's for the cause. Meanwhile, are you sure you've exploited all what Zebra2 has to offer ?Echoes in the Attic wrote:I bet they will do a great pro-1/prophet emu. I have to say though, I was really hoping for Zebra 3 to be the focus, seems like it keeps getting bumped by other things.
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- KVRAF
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http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... &p=5317658Numanoid wrote:You mean Pro-53 VST evolving into a Reaktor ensemble?electro wrote:Interesting development. Was waiting to see if NI would follow up Monark with a Sequential Pro 5 for Reaktor.
Good idea!
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- 4845 posts since 2 Sep, 2005 from city of lights (nl)
It seems the u-he team is capable of turning ideas into plugins quite fast these days, though I'm sure a lot of work goes into the pre-coding process, especially for big projects like Zebra. Urs said Zebra 3 is "the top item in my new years resolutions" so hopefully 2016 will be the year.
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- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
I think the work started when analysing the filter in the Synthex. The chip is the same (CEM 3320), so, probably Urs went from the Synthex to the Pro-One, to study alternate implementations of the same chip. Since the Pro-One is na old love, and not very complex synth, then probably arose the idea of creating na emultaiton fo the complete circuit, and in the process testing other ideas.
All this is just guessing, but yes, the goal is to create modules for later use inside DIVA and Zebra.
All this is just guessing, but yes, the goal is to create modules for later use inside DIVA and Zebra.
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- KVRian
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If there is 1 year of R&D, it would say more likely some time in 2017.core wrote:It seems the u-he team is capable of turning ideas into plugins quite fast these days, though I'm sure a lot of work goes into the pre-coding process, especially for big projects like Zebra. Urs said Zebra 3 is "the top item in my new years resolutions" so hopefully 2016 will be the year.
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- 652 posts since 2 Mar, 2015 from UK
Urs said he was researching emulations of hardware for Zebra III. Pro One was one of them to make it an accurate emulation it would require more CPU than DIVA so he's working on a CPU friendly version of Pro One modules for Zebra III and a stand alone fully emulated version. They are also concentrating on better optimizations for the 64bit versions.
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- 7691 posts since 11 Jun, 2006
i might change my mind about using UHE synths if they can make CPU usage less than 5% on a single keypress on this synth.Numanoid wrote:But Pro 1, then it will be monophonic, and still a CPU hog?
and no, i can't buy a new state of the art intel i7 computer. im a homeless dude with a smartphone.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
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- 12002 posts since 12 May, 2008
Certainly not, however I'd like Zebra catch up to the other synths in terms of MPE type stuff (per note pitch bend and modulation)lolilol1975 wrote:It's part of the Z3 project. They're working on the core audio and Urs said he would spend a year of R&D, so don't be in a hurry, but it's for the cause. Meanwhile, are you sure you've exploited all what Zebra2 has to offer ?Echoes in the Attic wrote:I bet they will do a great pro-1/prophet emu. I have to say though, I was really hoping for Zebra 3 to be the focus, seems like it keeps getting bumped by other things.
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- 26932 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
I don't think Urs said there would be Pro One modules for Zebra3... My understanding is that the tech being developed for these new Pro One filters will be used in Zebra...Jax Pok wrote:Urs said he was researching emulations of hardware for Zebra III. Pro One was one of them to make it an accurate emulation it would require more CPU than DIVA so he's working on a CPU friendly version of Pro One modules for Zebra III and a stand alone fully emulated version. The are also concentrating on better optimizations for the 64bit versions.
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- 26932 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Not a chance...layzer wrote:i might change my mind about using UHE synths if they can make CPU usage less than 5% on a single keypress on this synth.Numanoid wrote:But Pro 1, then it will be monophonic, and still a CPU hog?
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- KVRist
- 176 posts since 20 May, 2014
Think about this for a minute. Emulating complex phenomena like analogue and non-linearities is computationally expensive. Brand new state of the art i7 isn't even the best platform for that actually. Ideally you want something like a FPGA array. Take something like the M7 Bricasti for example. It has over 30x (estimated) the processing power of the "state of art i7" and it's all dedicated to one feature: reverb.layzer wrote:i might change my mind about using UHE synths if they can make CPU usage less than 5% on a single keypress on this synth.Numanoid wrote:But Pro 1, then it will be monophonic, and still a CPU hog?
and no, i can't buy a new state of the art intel i7 computer. im a homeless dude with a smartphone.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
If you do circuit modelling, yes, maybe. On the other hand, Diva has seen a few updates, and obviously is not at all as CPU consuming as it was when it came out. Which tells me that there should be always ways to get the same result without frying your CPU. Which also is the whole point of this project as far as i understood it.nevernamed wrote:Think about this for a minute. Emulating complex phenomena like analogue and non-linearities is computationally expensive.layzer wrote:i might change my mind about using UHE synths if they can make CPU usage less than 5% on a single keypress on this synth.Numanoid wrote:But Pro 1, then it will be monophonic, and still a CPU hog?
and no, i can't buy a new state of the art intel i7 computer. im a homeless dude with a smartphone.
Personally, i only can hope that devs will always keep an eye on CPU consumption, and find compromises, because frankly, a plugin i can only use 5 instances until it fries my PC is kind of unusable for me. I don't believe you have to model any single fart coming out of an analog system either to have good sound quality.
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Why that hardware synth? Was there anything special about it? The Sonic Core emulation seems to be ancient, dating back to 2001, but still costs 200 euros 
