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Echoes in the Attic wrote:I bet they will do a great pro-1/prophet emu. I have to say though, I was really hoping for Zebra 3 to be the focus, seems like it keeps getting bumped by other things.
It's part of the Z3 project. They're working on the core audio and Urs said he would spend a year of R&D, so don't be in a hurry, but it's for the cause. Meanwhile, are you sure you've exploited all what Zebra2 has to offer ?

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Numanoid wrote:
electro wrote:Interesting development. Was waiting to see if NI would follow up Monark with a Sequential Pro 5 for Reaktor.
You mean Pro-53 VST evolving into a Reaktor ensemble?

Good idea! :tu:
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It seems the u-he team is capable of turning ideas into plugins quite fast these days, though I'm sure a lot of work goes into the pre-coding process, especially for big projects like Zebra. Urs said Zebra 3 is "the top item in my new years resolutions" so hopefully 2016 will be the year.
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the pro-one has a curtis filter. so it could go to integrate the current filters they already have for zebra 3 and hopefully Diva also. :pray:

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I think the work started when analysing the filter in the Synthex. The chip is the same (CEM 3320), so, probably Urs went from the Synthex to the Pro-One, to study alternate implementations of the same chip. Since the Pro-One is na old love, and not very complex synth, then probably arose the idea of creating na emultaiton fo the complete circuit, and in the process testing other ideas.

All this is just guessing, but yes, the goal is to create modules for later use inside DIVA and Zebra.
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Proof that u-he got a Pro 1 :D


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core wrote:It seems the u-he team is capable of turning ideas into plugins quite fast these days, though I'm sure a lot of work goes into the pre-coding process, especially for big projects like Zebra. Urs said Zebra 3 is "the top item in my new years resolutions" so hopefully 2016 will be the year.
If there is 1 year of R&D, it would say more likely some time in 2017.

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Urs said he was researching emulations of hardware for Zebra III. Pro One was one of them to make it an accurate emulation it would require more CPU than DIVA so he's working on a CPU friendly version of Pro One modules for Zebra III and a stand alone fully emulated version. They are also concentrating on better optimizations for the 64bit versions.
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Numanoid wrote:But Pro 1, then it will be monophonic, and still a CPU hog?
i might change my mind about using UHE synths if they can make CPU usage less than 5% on a single keypress on this synth.

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lolilol1975 wrote:
Echoes in the Attic wrote:I bet they will do a great pro-1/prophet emu. I have to say though, I was really hoping for Zebra 3 to be the focus, seems like it keeps getting bumped by other things.
It's part of the Z3 project. They're working on the core audio and Urs said he would spend a year of R&D, so don't be in a hurry, but it's for the cause. Meanwhile, are you sure you've exploited all what Zebra2 has to offer ?
Certainly not, however I'd like Zebra catch up to the other synths in terms of MPE type stuff (per note pitch bend and modulation)

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Jax Pok wrote:Urs said he was researching emulations of hardware for Zebra III. Pro One was one of them to make it an accurate emulation it would require more CPU than DIVA so he's working on a CPU friendly version of Pro One modules for Zebra III and a stand alone fully emulated version. The are also concentrating on better optimizations for the 64bit versions.
I don't think Urs said there would be Pro One modules for Zebra3... My understanding is that the tech being developed for these new Pro One filters will be used in Zebra...

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layzer wrote:
Numanoid wrote:But Pro 1, then it will be monophonic, and still a CPU hog?
i might change my mind about using UHE synths if they can make CPU usage less than 5% on a single keypress on this synth.
Not a chance...

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layzer wrote:
Numanoid wrote:But Pro 1, then it will be monophonic, and still a CPU hog?
i might change my mind about using UHE synths if they can make CPU usage less than 5% on a single keypress on this synth.

and no, i can't buy a new state of the art intel i7 computer. im a homeless dude with a smartphone.
Think about this for a minute. Emulating complex phenomena like analogue and non-linearities is computationally expensive. Brand new state of the art i7 isn't even the best platform for that actually. Ideally you want something like a FPGA array. Take something like the M7 Bricasti for example. It has over 30x (estimated) the processing power of the "state of art i7" and it's all dedicated to one feature: reverb.

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nevernamed wrote:
layzer wrote:
Numanoid wrote:But Pro 1, then it will be monophonic, and still a CPU hog?
i might change my mind about using UHE synths if they can make CPU usage less than 5% on a single keypress on this synth.

and no, i can't buy a new state of the art intel i7 computer. im a homeless dude with a smartphone.
Think about this for a minute. Emulating complex phenomena like analogue and non-linearities is computationally expensive.
If you do circuit modelling, yes, maybe. On the other hand, Diva has seen a few updates, and obviously is not at all as CPU consuming as it was when it came out. Which tells me that there should be always ways to get the same result without frying your CPU. Which also is the whole point of this project as far as i understood it.

Personally, i only can hope that devs will always keep an eye on CPU consumption, and find compromises, because frankly, a plugin i can only use 5 instances until it fries my PC is kind of unusable for me. I don't believe you have to model any single fart coming out of an analog system either to have good sound quality.

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Why that hardware synth? Was there anything special about it? The Sonic Core emulation seems to be ancient, dating back to 2001, but still costs 200 euros 8)

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