May be. But they are also divide down architecture but probably tuned to have some difference in counters to achieve more alive character but it's still there should be difference from more chaotic vco behavior.Urs wrote:Pssst: DCOs typically have a much smaller common denominator in their phase counter than divide down oscillators found in string machines. They are not really audibly phase locked. For example the Juno 60 has beating between two voices playing octaves.david.beholder wrote: 1. dcos have the same phase on both layers
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- KVRAF
- 1914 posts since 13 Sep, 2007
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Murderous duck!
- KVRist
- 40 posts since 19 Oct, 2006 from London
Might I suggest that this emu of the Pro-One have a filter CV input port as the original did at the back. This is very useful for sequencing the filter separately.
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- Topic Starter
- 30180 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
You might. We've planned to make various signals (Velocity etc.) available as CV inputs.KnickersDown wrote:Might I suggest that this emu of the Pro-One have a filter CV input port as the original did at the back. This is very useful for sequencing the filter separately.
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- KVRist
- 34 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
The Lokomotiv synth is also held simple, but the sound is incredible good.
Drive and filter sections are one of the best sounding imo. Lokomotiv is also a CPU-Hog!
If this will go in the same direction (soundwise), count me in!
Drive and filter sections are one of the best sounding imo. Lokomotiv is also a CPU-Hog!
If this will go in the same direction (soundwise), count me in!
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- KVRist
- 276 posts since 12 Nov, 2011
Maybe a suitably discreet/teasing example would be to graph a model of the bass drum from the 808, seeing as some people have been pleading for a U-He drum machine again recentlyUrs wrote: Interesting thought... What makes a circuit simulation slow is two things: They use a big matrix to cater for arbitrary connection between the parts and they use variable characteristics for each part.
But if one models a given circuit with given parts one can strip the process down to solving a few handy equations. There is not necessarily a difference between the two. In fact, we nowadays start out with a set of equations that give identical results.
However, even if one models that circuit perfectly in Spice it won't sound like the original hardware. There is an aspect of reality that is not present in theoretical models. We use our ears and creative intervention to make it sound right.
Nevertheless, I would fancy trying this out... Can't be too difficult to compare the optimized model to the circuit simulation and plot the difference in some graphs...
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- KVRist
- 366 posts since 1 Nov, 2014
I just can say, that I always was waiting on is a Pro One Emu.
And Urs is doing it!
I like Mono Analogue Synths and got some real Hardware Synths in my studio.
But this little baby will be great!
Please More of Analogue Stuff!
All the time I was waiting on Zebra3 but since I knew U-HE RePro One is coming I don't wait on Zebra3!
Now I'm wating on this great full Analogue Baby!
i like Mono synths!
But the next one will be a Analogue with 6 voices, please.
I need some to play Pads.
But all the time Monos are great too.
Every year a new U-HE Analogue Mono Synth would be outstanding!!!
(Is it possible to to that?
Arp Axxe and Roland SH-5 will be next.
PS: I'm really happy that Urs is brining out the Pro One Mono Synth!!!
This is so awesome!!!
Friendly greedings from germany!!!
And Urs is doing it!
I like Mono Analogue Synths and got some real Hardware Synths in my studio.
But this little baby will be great!
Please More of Analogue Stuff!
All the time I was waiting on Zebra3 but since I knew U-HE RePro One is coming I don't wait on Zebra3!
Now I'm wating on this great full Analogue Baby!
i like Mono synths!
But the next one will be a Analogue with 6 voices, please.
I need some to play Pads.
But all the time Monos are great too.
Every year a new U-HE Analogue Mono Synth would be outstanding!!!
(Is it possible to to that?
Arp Axxe and Roland SH-5 will be next.
PS: I'm really happy that Urs is brining out the Pro One Mono Synth!!!
This is so awesome!!!
Friendly greedings from germany!!!
Scotty's Arrival
- KVRAF
- 18353 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Axxe? Why shoot so low? I think the market is ripe for a great 2600 emulation.VirusTI82 wrote:Arp Axxe and Roland SH-5 will be next. :tu
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- KVRian
- 912 posts since 2 May, 2005
although it is really none of my business to tell urs what to develop next...but wouldn't a creative sampler, an u-he granular synth, u-he's take on a physical modelled synth be much more interesting than the next analog emulation (even with the fantastic quality that we have come to expect from u-he)? 
- KVRAF
- 4062 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from A Swede Living in Budapest
Stop it! You are making me droolVirusTI82 wrote: Arp Axxe and Roland SH-5 will be next.![]()
But seriously, a synth inspired by ARP would be incredibly cool.
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Neon City for u-he Repro - 80s pop & Synthwave soundbank
HARDWARE SAMPLER FANATIC - Akai S1100/S950/Z8 - Casio FZ20m - Emu Emax I - Ensoniq ASR10/EPS
HARDWARE SAMPLER FANATIC - Akai S1100/S950/Z8 - Casio FZ20m - Emu Emax I - Ensoniq ASR10/EPS
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- KVRist
- 318 posts since 3 Nov, 2002
There are sooo many Synths/Flasgships on the market of the kind you are requesting. I lost overview. But what we definately do yot have are a lot of analog emulations. The most interesting Synths haven´t been emulated yet. Still missing (I only mention some of the best Filters):Gosh wrote:although it is really none of my business to tell urs what to develop next...but wouldn't a creative sampler, an u-he granular synth, u-he's take on a physical modelled synth be much more interesting than the next analog emulation (even with the fantastic quality that we have come to expect from u-he)?
Synton Syrinx (best mono synth ever, stunning filter): NO
PPG 100/300 (if adeveloper is able to make a 90% emulation, he will probably be millionaire): NO
ARP 2600: NO
EDP Wasp: NO
Oberheim Two/Fourvoice: NO
RSF Kobol: NO
Elka Syntex: NO
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What we do have:
MiniMoog: YES (many developer now...why poeple do not get bored but Moog emu Nr. 100 I don´t know)
SH-101: YES (TAL is closer to my Sh101 than Roland itself)
MS 20: YES/NO... U-he get´s there
Roland System 100: YES + I must say that Roland Filters have been covered a lot e.g. in U-he
What else do we have? Not much. Many developers have good products on the market with GUIs lookalike the Original but the Filter has nothing to do with the original.
You see, there did not really happen a lot in the last 10 years and the developers who are able to create good emulations are very rare.
Induljon a banzáj!
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- KVRian
- 912 posts since 2 May, 2005
You are either not familiar with the Xils Lab synths (emulations of the Synthex and the Kobol) and the Timewarp or you think that these are not good sounding. Anyway I am sure that with Zebra 3 we will get a new creative Highlight from U-He, so I am fine.e-modic wrote:There are sooo many Synths/Flasgships on the market of the kind you are requesting. I lost overview. But what we definately do yot have are a lot of analog emulations. The most interesting Synths haven´t been emulated yet. Still missing (I only mention some of the best Filters):Gosh wrote:although it is really none of my business to tell urs what to develop next...but wouldn't a creative sampler, an u-he granular synth, u-he's take on a physical modelled synth be much more interesting than the next analog emulation (even with the fantastic quality that we have come to expect from u-he)?
Synton Syrinx (best mono synth ever, stunning filter): NO
PPG 100/300 (if adeveloper is able to make a 90% emulation, he will probably be millionaire): NO
ARP 2600: NO
EDP Wasp: NO
Oberheim Two/Fourvoice: NO
RSF Kobol: NO
Elka Syntex: NO
...
What we do have:
MiniMoog: YES (many developer now...why poeple do not get bored but Moog emu Nr. 100 I don´t know)
SH-101: YES (TAL is closer to my Sh101 than Roland itself)
MS 20: YES/NO... U-he get´s there
Roland System 100: YES + I must say that Roland Filters have been covered a lot e.g. in U-he
What else do we have? Not much. Many developers have good products on the market with GUIs lookalike the Original but the Filter has nothing to do with the original.
You see, there did not really happen a lot in the last 10 years and the developers who are able to create good emulations are very rare.
- KVRAF
- 3386 posts since 25 Apr, 2011
There are sooo many Synths/Flasgships on the market of the kind you are requesting. I lost overview. But what we definately do yot have are a lot of analog emulations. The most interesting Synths haven´t been emulated yet. Still missing (I only mention some of the best Filters):Gosh wrote:e-modic wrote:Gosh wrote:although it is really none of my business to tell urs what to develop next...but wouldn't a creative sampler, an u-he granular synth, u-he's take on a physical modelled synth be much more interesting than the next analog emulation (even with the fantastic quality that we have come to expect from u-he)?
Synton Syrinx (best mono synth ever, stunning filter): NO
PPG 100/300 (if adeveloper is able to make a 90% emulation, he will probably be millionaire): NO
ARP 2600: NO
EDP Wasp: NO
Oberheim Two/Fourvoice: NO
RSF Kobol: NO
Elka Syntex: NO
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ARP 2600 by Arturia
EDP Wasp by ImageLine
Oberheim Two/Four Voice by Arturia (SEM, but with the additional Arturia stuff, it is almost the 2/4 voice)
RSF Kobol by Xils
Elka Syntex by Xils
