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I found something strange (bug?)

I load a fresh song.

Make a midi sequence 4 bar long containing one long note.

Then when I split it, the midi note disappears in the second part
of the sequence.

EDIT: Forgot to mention I am on Win 7 64 bit
Last edited by sbj on Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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tested and it does

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urlwolf wrote:Fonts are so small as to be unusable on modern resolutions. Is there any way to make them bigger?
I've poor eyesight and usually complain quick enough but I'm not finding a problem at 1920x1080 on a large screen. I don't need higher resolution for anything I've found.

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One thing I noticed, sorry if this was mentioned prior: the mixer strip no longer opens in the users chosen position - it always opens around the middle at maximum width. Just me?

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Which mixer strip, and where? Which steps to repeat what you encounter?

I already did this quick test:

New project
Switch to modular area
Insert Mixer Strip and open editor
Move it to another location
Close editor
Open editor: Opens perfectly at the position i moved it to.

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sbj wrote:I found something strange (bug?) I load a fresh song. Make a midi sequence 4 bar long containing one long note. Then when I split it, the midi note disappears in the second part of the sequence. EDIT: Forgot to mention I am on Win 7 64 bit
Do you mean that the note in the first part still is 4 bars but displayed as 2 bars 'normal' and 2 bars 'grayed out' ?

The second part (=the new one after the split) is empty, right?

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Mutools wrote:Do you mean that the note in the first part still is 4 bars but displayed as 2 bars 'normal' and 2 bars 'grayed out' ?
Yes, and that is like it is supposed to be, right?
Mutools wrote:The second part (=the new one after the split) is empty, right?
Yes, and that is where it seems wrong to me.

I used to be able to stretch a 4 bar sequence to for example 32 bars, and then
cut it up to four 8 bar long sequences without anything disappearing.
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sbj wrote:
Mutools wrote:Do you mean that the note in the first part still is 4 bars but displayed as 2 bars 'normal' and 2 bars 'grayed out' ?
Yes, and that is like it is supposed to be, right?
Yes, the note length is not changed by the split.
Mutools wrote:The second part (=the new one after the split) is empty, right?
Yes, and that is where it seems wrong to me.
Really? It has always been like that. The difference with M6 is that it showed a note in the part cause there still was a note starting before the 2nd part start, but it didn't make sound. You can check it in M6. In M7 when splitting unique sequence parts any redundant events are deleted. That's more clean and logical, it was requested.
I used to be able to stretch a 4 bar sequence to for example 32 bars, and then
cut it up to four 8 bar long sequences without anything disappearing.
Visually maybe, but in fact the visuals were a bit misleading cause it is about notes that are in the cut up sequence but starting before the split and thus not playing.

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Mutools wrote:In M7 when splitting unique sequence parts any redundant events are deleted. That's more clean and logical, it was requested.
O.K I see. Thanks for the clarification.

But I still think it is strange I can end up with empty sequences,
which I then have to delete manually.
And of course if more users wants this way of doing things, it is the
right approach for you and MuLab.

Cheers
Sound C loud
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Clicks and pops is all I get

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sbj wrote:But I still think it is strange I can end up with empty sequences, which I then have to delete manually.
I don't understand. Why did you split that part then?
Edit: Ok, cause you also want to split the notes i assume.
But that was not the case either in M6, that's what confuses me a bit.
Anyway, about M7, i'm not sure if splitting parts should split notes. Splitting notes can sound very different. And may even not always be the desired behavior for splitting a part.
In this specific case you described, i would make the note half length, also the part, and then copy the part, so that you converted a 4 bar part in 2 2 bar parts.

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mutools wrote:
sbj wrote:But I still think it is strange I can end up with empty sequences, which I then have to delete manually.
I don't understand. Why did you split that part then?
Edit: Ok, cause you also want to split the notes i assume.
But that was not the case either in M6, that's what confuses me a bit.
Anyway, about M7, i'm not sure if splitting parts should split notes. Splitting notes can sound very different. And may even not always be the desired behavior for splitting a part.
In this specific case you described, i would make the note half length, also the part, and then copy the part, so that you converted a 4 bar part in 2 2 bar parts.
Yes, it is just a little adjustment to my way of working, and I am sure
it will quickly be second nature.
Sound C loud
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Just to be sure i'm with you: In M6 you splitted that part, go into the 2nd part and there you adjusted the note start and end. Right?

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mutools wrote:Just to be sure i'm with you: In M6 you splitted that part, go into the 2nd part and there you adjusted the note start and end. Right?
Yes, but in M6 it was only the first part of a stretched sequence.
For example a 4 bar Sequence stretched to 32 bars.
The rest was still there unaffected.

In M7 there is just an empty sequence and that was what I noticed.
Sound C loud
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FYI: It was requested by several users that upon splitting a unique sequence part (ie not a shared sequence part) that the cut off events would be auto deleted. I agreed that would be better and so that's what's implemented. Does it feel wrong to you?

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mutools wrote:FYI: It was requested by several users that upon splitting a unique sequence part (ie not a shared sequence part) that the cut off events would be auto deleted. I agreed that would be better and so that's what's implemented. Does it feel wrong to you?
No, I just have to work in a different way, and do my cutting of
sequences according to the new set of rules.

Thanks for taking time out to explain me this :tu:
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