MuLab 7.0.47

[Zexila]

Here's something more extreme:

This is just awesome

[nenneb]

I'm not sure, if it is a bug-report or feature-request. Decide yourself, please:
When I close MuLab, it promts for saving an unsaved project. Fine.
When I open another project, MuLab prompts "Replace existing project?". OK.
But it does NOT prompt to save an unsaved project. Changes may be lost.
This is not new, I know this behaviour since I started with MuLab. But maybe you want to change it, Jo.

[MuTools]

I think the essence is that you are warned about the replace. If you want to save the project, then you can still save it. As already researched and discussed before it's practically impossible for a project to know whether it has changed or not. So there always will be a question. The question is there. Right? Or i'm missing your point?

[MuTools]

How do you see that? Pls post a mockup.

Here's a skinnier version that's close to the current collapsed state:

Here's something more extreme:

What do you do when the level meters are active?
Can you pls update the mockups with level meters showing levels up to 0 dB or more.
I mean: I think that if the text is drawn upon/below the actually shown level then it will be quite unreadable.

[MuTools]

And another thing: Why show the output and not the rackname?

[Zexila]

And another thing: Why show the output and not the rackname?

Great point, output name is really not that important

[pljones]

It's not showing the output, it's showing the rack name. It's a mock up. That's whatever text you want. The output of the master rack was handy to copy.

gimp crashes each time I try to get it to edit the alpha channel, so I can't get the overlay effect to work. Basically, the text is "in front of" the level meter.

[Zexila]

gimp crashes

I know, that thing is not reliable at all

[pljones]

Aha, I managed it. The earlier post has been updated (as I overwrote the images (ETA: again - rack name changed to prevent confusion)). Hm, I didn't get it to go to 0dB, though - yes, it'd be yellow near the top but the text colour is also just mocked - green-through-yellow is probably best avoided.

[MuTools]

Thanks for updating the mockups. For me it proves that showing both the level and a name looks cluttered, none of the two is very readable. I'm sorry for this opinion.

PS: And an extra consideration: It would even be less readable if the "Top Color" was something greenish. Or in that case the text color would have to be different from the Top Color which would also add inconsistency in the color used palette.

[pljones]

Given its purpose, I actually think it looks fine myself. It provides all the controls in an accessible way with more information visible than the current collapsed view. I've updated the images again with peaking volume and the text is actually still readable, which surprised me. For consistency, the colour could be the colour of the rack title (i.e. white in the scheme above, rather than the yellowish value from the rack output I used). That would probably further improve readability. (Anyway, this should be in a separate topic .)

[sl23]

Given its purpose, I actually think it looks fine myself. It provides all the controls in an accessible way with more information visible than the current collapsed view. I've updated the images again with peaking volume and the text is actually still readable, which surprised me. For consistency, the colour could be the colour of the rack title (i.e. white in the scheme above, rather than the yellowish value from the rack output I used). That would probably further improve readability. (Anyway, this should be in a separate topic .)

I quite like what you've done. The only enhancement to it would be to remove, or allow users to colour, the Rack background when unfocused. Or maybe just use a coloured line to separate racks?This removal, or colour matching to background, reduces the clutter effect.

I only wish you hadn't added those gradient effects to everything either, that really isn't a good effect imho!

[sl23]

Just checking the Basic Step Seq preset you posted, took a bit of figuring out as some things I've never used! I think this should be a factory preset.

One thing I requested that isn't there though, knobs for notes. It's almost there with the transpose, could you allow transpose to be expanded to ALL 128 notes please, rather than just 25?

I realise Octave is there, but this requires another hardware knob, which I don't have and it makes it really awkward to use.

BUG: 'Top Row' doesn't shift past F4

[Trancit]

Thanks for updating the mockups. For me it proves that showing both the level and a name looks cluttered, none of the two is very readable. I'm sorry for this opinion.

PS: And an extra consideration: It would even be less readable if the "Top Color" was something greenish. Or in that case the text color would have to be different from the Top Color which would also add inconsistency in the color used palette.

And what about splitting the space??? The half for a little meter (just enough to indicate what happens on this track and the other half for the name???

I find the name quite important for a general overview and especialy with bigger projects, where collapsed racks make sense, it´s quite easy to loose the focus which is which... With 40 racks or more hoovering the mouse a few seconds over each single track seems to me more a pain in the butt than having to expand the rack to turn process on/off and second, would this be not an more easy workaround with a key command (if not already exists)...

[MuTools]

With 40 racks or more hoovering the mouse a few seconds over each single track seems to me more a pain in the butt than...

FYI: Only the first hover takes a little wait, as long as the tooltip is there it instantly shows other hovered names.