UPDATE: T-RackS Saturator X is released

[Aiynzahev]

Very nice plugin. Will definitely consider it.

[zeep]

Can we download the Manual somewhere?

[dbender]

I wonder how it compares to Klanghelm SDRR? Anyone compared it to that yet?

[simon.a.billington]

I am thoroughly confused....

I log directly into the Custom Shop desktop app. It deals only in 'Credits' - I have 20.

I log into the IKM website account/store. It deals only in 'Jam Points' - I have 33 Euro worth.

Where/how can I combine these? What a strange system.

Custom Shop does not only deal in Gear Credits. The $/€ should also be clearly displayed for Saturator X there. You can also use JamPoints toward Gear Credits in Custom Shop if you decide to use them (as in my previous example that was a slight revision/simplification of cprompt's steps).

The reason you can't apply JamPoints if you already have Gear Credits is that would be stacking a discount - you use JamPoints to discount the Gear Credit purchase at the time you purchase them. Once you have them, you spend them, sometimes at great savings due to things like JamPoints being used when you purchased them, the free Gear Credits we gave out recently, etc.

Hope that helps. If you need further information, we have a page full of information about JamPoints at http://www.ikmultimedia.com/jampoints/ and a section in the Custom Shop help area that is called "Gear Credits: the Currency of the Custom Shop" which may also clarify things further for those experiencing confusion. Thank you.

Okay yeah when you say it like that it does make sense. I never stopped to think about it like that. At least now I can stop scratching my head over it.

[simon.a.billington]

has this got the same algo as the 73 & 81 eq?

I was correct - these are not the same algos from those processors. However, the experience in analysis and modeling we got from past modules such as the EQ 73 and EQ 81 certainly influenced and payed off in producing the technology behind modules like the Saturator X.

In context of these transformer models and other posts above, note that in the EQ 73 and EQ 81 we modeled the ENTIRE circuit including the input and output transformers, while in Saturator X we are modeling the behavior of the sole transformer component, which is not having any interactions with other parts of the circuit (since that is not part of this processor/model).

Transformers, by nature, have very little if any distortion, and only at very low frequencies, but their effect on the signal can be heard nonetheless, especially when pushed, so it’s not a surprise that the two transformer modes don’t offer that same “in your face” saturation as tubes or transistors.
They are supposed to add a slight color, even though when used in conjunction with the brickwall limiter they can be pushed to extremes to get some nice “pumping” effect (like the in the Brickwall Pump preset we created for that very purpose).

I think it's a case of a little goes along way.

Of course you can distort the crap out of a transformer to effect. However, if you use the subtle nature of the transformer on pretty much every track in the mix, then it could potentially contribute to a more noticeable accumulative effect.

How noticeable will depend largely on how much you crank each effect, but that's pointing out the obvious.

[simon.a.billington]

TBH i'd now be interested in seeing IK's take on a console channel EMU, and if they'd go that step further and add channel variation (like bx console but WITH saturation which that doesn't have).

Their take on Slate VCC/sonimus satson/Waves NLS in other words.

I'd like to see that too.

In a way you could just alter the effect type and the strength of it, but it wouldn't be the same thing.

You could take advantage of the split in T-Racks CS, add a subtle, but slightly varying EQ curve to your saturation then blend it back in. It'll get you closer but still not the same thing.

Plus you MAY end up using more resources in the process.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Can we download the Manual somewhere?

Saturator X is covered in section 4.33 of the T-RackS CS User Manual. This manual is installed with the product/demo. If you need help finding the location of IK manuals on your system, please refer to the FAQ at http://www.ikmultimedia.com/faq/2497

[VitaminD]

Very nice plugin. Will definitely consider it.

How are you using it? It seems to thin bass.. maybe on mid rangey sounds? On vocals it would work since most want the low-lows cut from the vocals anyway and vocals are mid rangeyish as is..

[Klinke1]

"The eye?"

It looks after your latency.. Gotcha.

Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:41 am

Release Saturator: Peter - IK Multimedia on
Tue May 17, 2016

Sounds nice. But it introduces 6 times the latency of Decapitator.

Thu May 19, 2016 1:48 am

387samples@48kHz..is the rumor. (8.0625 milliseconds)
(cubase shows that)

[AudioBomb]

Love the graphic looks. Will try later.

[rollasoc]

You can use Jampoints to buy Credits?

OK now that connects the dots. Thanks for the heads up!

I used jam points to buy credits. I used credits to buy the plugin. Two days later, the plugin is not showing in my account, I have had no purchase email, but my credits have disappeared from Custom shop, which states I have purchased the plugin.

Have opened a support ticket. Not happy..

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

You can use Jampoints to buy Credits?

OK now that connects the dots. Thanks for the heads up!

I used jam points to buy credits. I used credits to buy the plugin. Two days later, the plugin is not showing in my account, I have had no purchase email, but my credits have disappeared from Custom shop, which states I have purchased the plugin.

Have opened a support ticket. Not happy..

I'm sure they will resolve this issue as that's not normal behavior and it will get squared away. In the mean time if you used Gear Credits in Custom Shop, you can verify what gear you have by going to Gear --> My Gear. If it is showing there, please go to Gear --> Restore My Gear and it will likely resolve this issue. If not, IK Support will surely take care of you.

[rollasoc]

I'm sure they will resolve this issue as that's not normal behavior and it will get squared away. In the mean time if you used Gear Credits in Custom Shop, you can verify what gear you have by going to Gear --> My Gear. If it is showing there, please go to Gear --> Restore My Gear and it will likely resolve this issue. If not, IK Support will surely take care of you.

Peter,

Jason, replied back to me, within minutes of logging the issue and resolved it to my satisfaction.
You can't fault that for timely support. Thanks...
Happy now!

[MogwaiBoy]

Cool story re: IKM speedy customer support

[kmonkey]

Tested Saturator for a few days. MY impression is that IK became one amazing company developing amazing plugins. Peter you should really be proud of your team.

May i just say that as someone who wasn't visited your shop for years (i was there before jam something thingie) i am really confused by shop "currency".

As much hard you are trying to help people to understand this concept and to look at it as something normal- It is not.

I tried to recalculate how much exactly i need to pay for Saturator (it's more complicated, i have another account with partner) but i ended with saying "clusterf***" and decided i had have enough of it.

Ok maybe i am old and does not understand new shop concepts but...The single fact that even years later of jam/credit introduction you need to toute people on public forums (in this same thread and in every other thread) and to explain them how to work with your credit things - is telling me that it's not me with the problem.

It looks to me that you guys intentionally flooded your users with some sort of deceptive savings and what not and you did it by introducing very convoluted non existing "currency" with which you are manipulating public appearance and cost of your product. That's my impression/opinion. No disrespect intended.

If you wanted to give your users discounts you could do it as other 99% online shops do it. Simply by adding variable discount rate at the checkout. Recalculated by various options (amount of products, amount of past products etc.etc.)

Oh damn...

I hope my kids won't need to have degree in online shopping just to buy some damn thing.