[ANN] Repro-1

[Urs]

wow...this looks finished to me

Hehe, except for the knobs that don't do anything...

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BF_nhChANBc/?r=1409671518

I'm reminded of the old DigitalFishPhones plugs that let you remove the panel to make additional under the hood tweaks.

[exmatproton]

wow...this looks finished to me

Hehe, except for the knobs that don't do anything...

[zerocrossing]

Minimoogs and some Rolands are emulated very well, but there are no proper emulation of SEM exists yet. And SEM replica cost like $1k altho it's not obscure or rare, just not emulated properly.

I thought there were many SEM emulations out there? Surely the Arturia one isn't a bad synth at all...?

Should we do a SEM, we would probably do it as it was intended: A Synth Expander Module to accompany another monophonic synth. However, we have something more intrigueing (IMHO) around which bears a lot of similarity. We shall see, we have yet to release our first strict emulation and I can't yet commit to do any more thereafter.

Let's say opinions differ. Some think a couple of SEM emulations are quite ok, like the one from Arturia. Others, like David, laugh at that But what he isn't getting, is that this Arturia synth/emulation (whatever) is just a great little synth to play with. And there are quite a few (SEM emulations) of them at this point.

IMHO, i think you are at the right way a.t.m. with more intriguing synths. Certainly good on the way with your first one, the RePro

The SEM clone in my ATC-X is pretty different than SEM V. I don't know if this says anything about either, but I prefer the hardware filter. SEM V isn't bad, but I feel it needs to have the feature set extended by quite a bit to be really useful as a plug in for anything but pretty basic sounds. It's modulation options are just too basic for a plug in that doesn't really nail the analog sound like others have.

[urosh]

SEM V isn't bad, but I feel it needs to have the feature set extended by quite a bit to be really useful as a plug in for anything but pretty basic sounds. It's modulation options are just too basic for a plug in that doesn't really nail the analog sound like others have.

???
SEM V has full blown mod matrix and note scaling of every parameter. It is considerably extended compared to actual SEM and OB family.
I don't know what "others" are in your opinion, but IMHO while SEM V doesn't really nail the analog sound, only soft synth that is better than SEM V in that department is RePro Alpha (I own Diva and SEM V, and have tested every other virtual analog softsynth on market except that new Pulsar modular). SEM V has horrible issue with envelopes (as do other Arturia emulations IIRC from trying them), but it was noticed by like 3 users in total, and not that relevant for basic tone.

[david.beholder]

I agree on the generic part (for a bit, since the lay out and the possibilities are not generic). But the sound is lovely and yes, it isn't emulating the real deal 100%.

Unfortunately you're wrong as there are any other non-generic possibilities on SEM. Most of monosynths has what SEM has.
The real deal as well as say minimoog or pro-1 is not about features or layout -- it's about sound of components. That's most important in SEM, that's totally missed by Arturia.

let's agree to disagree to a certain extend. What i seek is clearly something else in contrast to you.

Nope because you have no point here and there is not room for back up. There are nothing else in sem except 3-4 major strokes and SEM is SEM because of ther. That are exact parts not emulated by Arturia, therefore it's NOT EMULATION and doesn't produce what called SEM sound. Compare with RePro and Pro-1: U-he is trying to simulate not only major things like filter (not done in Sem V) but tiny details too (not done in SEM V).

In my ears (but i am not a real SEM fan anyway, and yes, i have played with a 4 voice) the SEM is (nowadays) a bit of a generic synth anyway. Back in the days it was not, let's keep that clear. It was a marvaleous "invention". An awesome piece for sure.

Well may be you've played it wrong ))) SEM is generic by design but it sounds almost like no other synth because of Filter and Env behavior -- it has incredible creamy and organic tone -- sound praised by Legowelt, Dave Spiers, Alan Wilder and lot of others.

After years of playing on different synths (both hard- and software, i don't think i have played it wrong. I just don't think it is my thing. I am sure there are synths that aren't made for you as well

Please don't replace one term with another:
1. Synth specific is not subject of your [un-]appreciation but fact of life. Say I'm really cold to Pro-1 but it doesn't change modulation system on Pro-1
2. SEM sound doesn't fit you -- different strokes for different folks, you don't hear how specific SEM filter is... well this conversation makes no sense then.

It is. It is really very simple; when a company releases a synth, people make up their own mind. They read/view reviews, or just buy it, or whatever. It is as simple as that. I have the feeling you place yourself a bit to high above others. We have all our own passions and we seek different stuff.

I have feeling that you can't sell me on this points. People buying VA named after some analog synth are expecting to get sound of that synth. They didn't that's problem.

I have a feeling that you have feeling for a reason. Feeling for a reason is not a feeling it's reasoning.

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[david.beholder]

SEM V has horrible issue with envelopes (as do other Arturia emulations IIRC from trying them), but it was noticed by like 3 users in total, and not that relevant for basic tone.

Original SEM is king of arps & sequences and it's implying proper envelopes and good basic tone.
SEM V has neither and it was mentioned by people who played with hardware all the time. And it's way more than 3 users.

[david.beholder]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BF_nhChANBc/?r=1409671518

Wow, just wow.
Btw Is keyboard switchable on/off?

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BF_nhChANBc/?r=1409671518

Wow, just wow.
Btw Is keyboard switchable on/off?

You may already know this, but I'm pretty sure that's the step sequencer and not a keyboard.

[aaron aardvark]

Pretty cool with the front panel off. Is that where you can switch out components? Do I need a soldering iron?

[david.beholder]

You may already know this, but I'm pretty sure that's the step sequencer and not a keyboard.

Sure I see that pseudo-leds.
But you understand it's often is not necessary and eating UI space.

[bmrzycki]

These screen shots are looking really awesome!

[Cyoon]

These screen shots are looking really awesome!

yea totally

[Urs]

Wow, just wow.
Btw Is keyboard switchable on/off?

The synth has a "Drone" function (endless hold) and a Latch (endless arpeggio) and Oscillator 2 has a switch for key tracking. Oscillator 1 however always tracks the keyboard.

Feature requests need to be send to Dave Smith, but I wouldn't expect any update to the Pro One anytime soon. Maybe from the circuit bending scene...?

You may already know this, but I'm pretty sure that's the step sequencer and not a keyboard.

Nono, it's a normal keyboard. Just, as David reckons, we used this look to save space.

[Urs]

Pretty cool with the front panel off. Is that where you can switch out components? Do I need a soldering iron?

No soldering iron needed on your side - only on ours!

But yes, there are going to be drop downs and "virtual jumpers" that let you swap a few components for a slight variation in sound and behaviour. We may also add some little hacks, but nothing too fancy.