But still, you could easily tell that there is a bass sound where there's supposed to be a drum... maybe it's just an issue with how certain DAWs handle missing plugins? Rather than just bypassing them, they mute the sound and you're stuck digging through 100 tracks of a project to figure out how to make something make noise somewhere?bjporter wrote:... Instead of handing me that project, they swap out the samples for some clever tracks with commercial plugs, and drum presets / layering, whatever. I don't have all these plugins, so couldn't verify
One Synth Challenge #87: Podolski by U-he (Jasinski Wins!)
- KVRAF
- 2229 posts since 29 Sep, 2011
- KVRAF
- 22962 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
I have to agree. Commercial plugs, from a verification standpoint, just won't work for this contest.bjporter wrote:z.prime wrote:Right, but one of the tenets of the contest is that the use of plugins of any type don't alter the sound beyond recognition... so missing eq should maybe muddy up the mix a lot, but not change the overall character of the track, no?bjporter wrote:Not sure what the confusion is. If we only have access to free plugins, it's a lot easier to check projects for abuse. If someone is using all using all kinds of commercial plugs, it's quite a bit harder.
Ah i see whats up. Ok so let's say someone used percussion samples in a clever way, and submitted their project. People are suspect, so I check it out. Instead of handing me that project, they swap out the samples for some clever tracks with commercial plugs, and drum presets / layering, whatever. I don't have all these plugins, so couldn't verify.
If they used free plugins, it would be fairly easy to get the plugins, and verify that the sound matches up.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2725 posts since 19 Dec, 2010 from North America
That's dedication! Maybe they deserve the prize in that casez.prime wrote:But still, you could easily tell that there is a bass sound where there's supposed to be a drum... maybe it's just an issue with how certain DAWs handle missing plugins? Rather than just bypassing them, they mute the sound and you're stuck digging through 100 tracks of a project to figure out how to make something make noise somewhere?bjporter wrote:... Instead of handing me that project, they swap out the samples for some clever tracks with commercial plugs, and drum presets / layering, whatever. I don't have all these plugins, so couldn't verify
Yeah they could cause trouble with free stuff, but of course it's just another layer of ease with commercial plugs. Thankfully we haven't had too many fly by nighters who cheat to get the prize, though there have been some attempts.
One Synth Challenge: https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/about
- KVRAF
- 2229 posts since 29 Sep, 2011
Yes, I'm worried this coming month with real cash money on the line! Wowzers!bjporter wrote:Thankfully we haven't had too many fly by nighters who cheat to get the prize, though there have been some attempts.
- KVRist
- 200 posts since 27 Apr, 2015 from Planet Earth
KVR OSC88 with cash money-it will be memorable
:):) want to ask something aside of the topic-did anyone else receive offer from 'Snakebite Music' as soundcloud message to work for their 'company' and then u have to buy something- it seems like cheap trade trick of Amazon, not even a serious approach to the customers
:):)I want to thank u for this competition cuz it push us to improve our ideas and skills
Cheers 
- KVRian
- 730 posts since 26 Dec, 2007 from Australia
No, I get lots of rubbish through SoundCloud but not that one. Just ignore all that crapVilianTroy wrote:KVR OSC88 with cash money-it will be memorable:):) want to ask something aside of the topic-did anyone else receive offer from 'Snakebite Music' as soundcloud message to work for their 'company' and then u have to buy something- it seems like cheap trade trick of Amazon, not even a serious approach to the customers
:):)I want to thank u for this competition cuz it push us to improve our ideas and skills
Cheers
- KVRist
- 200 posts since 27 Apr, 2015 from Planet Earth
they even give me job yesterday hahahhaha with deadline 2 june
:):)- i ask them/him do i need to travel with time machine hahahhaa
:):)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2725 posts since 19 Dec, 2010 from North America
VilianTroy wrote:they even give me job yesterday hahahhaha with deadline 2 june:):)- i ask them/him do i need to travel with time machine hahahhaa
:):)
One Synth Challenge: https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/about
- KVRer
- 17 posts since 21 May, 2016
So many good songs!
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- KVRAF
- 9880 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
This time around, I only gave one track 5 points, and a decent amount of ones I thought were very, very good that I gave 4 points.z.prime wrote:rghvdberg wrote:And Wag have me 5 points.![]()
The reason I only gave one of the tracks 5 points is I thought it was the best track this time around, and I should try and just pick the overall winner and be done with it.
I never do that great myself, as I think the highest I ever got was 25th place with a track I thought would do better (Hive OSC) but it is still fun to enter the OSC. Also, I learn something new each time.
Some of the guys on here are definitely masters of the craft for sure.
- KVRist
- 200 posts since 27 Apr, 2015 from Planet Earth
this was my first entry in any competition ever and so many interesting tracks makes me try my best for OSC88 - specially with this cash money competition can be called professional
:):)
- KVRist
- 493 posts since 17 Dec, 2013 from The Netherlands
http://klanghelm.com/contents/products/products.phpz.prime wrote:Here. They are all cross-platform, of course I use a bunch of the stock Bitwig plugs just because I'm used to them. But between your DAW plugs, Freeverb 3, Limiter 6, and the TDR plugs, you should be able to get a decent mix. It *does* suck a but compared to use the FabFilter stuff. Ok, a lot bit... anyway, the trick is to find a few plugs that do the job and get good with them.wagtunes wrote:... I've got a great reverb in EWQL Spaces. And of course I have all the Fabfilter stuff.
Where can I find the list of your plugs? Remember, I'm on 64 bit Windows.
Try the Klanghelm freebees, very nice compressors, basic but nice sounding
- KVRian
- 730 posts since 26 Dec, 2007 from Australia
And where the hell is your trackThePresent wrote:http://klanghelm.com/contents/products/products.phpz.prime wrote:Here. They are all cross-platform, of course I use a bunch of the stock Bitwig plugs just because I'm used to them. But between your DAW plugs, Freeverb 3, Limiter 6, and the TDR plugs, you should be able to get a decent mix. It *does* suck a but compared to use the FabFilter stuff. Ok, a lot bit... anyway, the trick is to find a few plugs that do the job and get good with them.wagtunes wrote:... I've got a great reverb in EWQL Spaces. And of course I have all the Fabfilter stuff.
Where can I find the list of your plugs? Remember, I'm on 64 bit Windows.
Try the Klanghelm freebees, very nice compressors, basic but nice sounding
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- KVRian
- 725 posts since 11 Mar, 2014 from Netherlands
both voting page AND soundcloud are playing the same trackWow, this is a very, very, busy mix. What was he thinking?
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This is insanity!
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- KVRist
- 93 posts since 15 Apr, 2013 from Perth WA
Actually I like that we have to use freeware, I have a new appreciation for how good some freeware is. The Melda Productions is a good substitute for ProQ, little bit fiddly in comparison but It has some nice features of it's own.z.prime wrote:Totally agree. I have a huge workflow suckage not being able to use my FabFilter plugs. I love them. So much. Freeverb 3 is good, I highly recommend it. It does suck just a bit to use but sounds awesome.. but pick the ProG 12 sec reverb, then adjust it down, eventually you get the hang of it. I am sooo close to getting the source code for that one and just making a nice UI for it... Agree about the compressors sorta, just get ALL the TDR plugs, they are awesome, they'll help out the OSC a lot. You can substitute TDR Nova for a MB comp pretty effectively, it takes some getting used to, though. And TDR Kotenlikov is a nice compressor. Hell, even Molot can sound awesome.. but WTF am I looking at with it? hehe. Anyway, you should look at the list of plugs on my tracks, they work pretty wellwagtunes wrote:I wish I could get better free FX for those synths that have none at all, like TAL. I hate all my free reverbs. I hate my EQs because they're so hard to work with. I hate my compressors for the same reason. My delays are good. But that's it.
