KVR Audio

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:27 am

Oberheim 8000 wrote:Thanks for detailed info Ingonator.

Btw. Falcon can not export any wavetable. Or I dont see any option to do it.

Falcon just has a wavetable player, it does not have a WT editor.

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:41 am

I like the sound of the wavetable synth in Icarus much more than in Falcon. But Serum is better, i like Nave even more and Dune 2 is still king for me (even with the lack of a wavetable editor).
As usual it´s a matter of taste and need.
Icarus seems to be a really nice synth but i didn´t find anything what would set it apart.
Seems the public beta doesn´t work anymore or expired

Whatever, i wish Tone2 good luck with it and i think a lot people will like it.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:44 am

Is Dune 2 even a wavetable synth??

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:46 am

chk071 wrote:Is Dune 2 even a wavetable synth??

Its has WT osc, so its one part of it, along with FM, VA etc...

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:46 am

The more I play with it, the more i love it. Oscillator morph it super fun

Love these FM modes, they may go absolutely crazy but still sound good.

No way to control unison stereo spread? Or is it hidden somewhere?

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:52 am

Cinebient wrote:Seems the public beta doesn´t work anymore or expired

The download link or the plugin? Have not tested it today but the plugin must be reloaded because the demo time is limited.

But Serum is better, i like Nave even more and Dune 2 is still king for me (even with the lack of a wavetable editor).

IMO Serum is the reference for a Wavetable synth.

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:08 am

Sampleconstruct wrote:
Oberheim 8000 wrote:Thanks for detailed info Ingonator.

Btw. Falcon can not export any wavetable. Or I dont see any option to do it.
Falcon just has a wavetable player, it does not have a WT editor.

One could make one with the lua scripting tool

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:08 am

I tried Serum and didn't do it for me. Honestly, I was wondering what all the fuss was about?

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:18 am

4damind wrote:
Cinebient wrote:Seems the public beta doesn´t work anymore or expired
The download link or the plugin? Have not tested it today but the plugin must be reloaded because the demo time is limited.

But Serum is better, i like Nave even more and Dune 2 is still king for me (even with the lack of a wavetable editor).
IMO Serum is the reference for a Wavetable synth.

I can´t open Icarus anymore...it link me direct to the Icarus web site.

Not for me. Like i said it´s a matter of flavour and so. I don´t like the sound of Serum in general.
I agree that it´s great to create wavetables but i also like the Nave editor more (and it´s 3D

).
I know many will disagree and i said it more than one time but i still found no synth where i get such smooth interpolations between the waves like in Dune 2. Even wavetables with just 2 waveforms and slow modulation added to morph between them sounds great while i always get a kind of microstepping with other synths (yes...beside Zebra 2 maybe) in this case.
But maybe it´s just me and i like the flavour of Dune 2 more. I mean i even sold it a while ago and now regret it really because no synth can replace it for me.
A ton of features and options are not always the best thing if you don´t like the sound you get.
But it would be boring if we all agree and would like the same things and tools.
All these synths are good and offer something unique.
Icarus offers just not enough for a buy for me.
But in general i stopped buying new synths because no new synth has enough new things to be a must buy anymore. They all can create a different timbre but the market is so saturated that i find it a bit waste of money. But then every customer is unique too

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:20 am

Dynamic microtuning to enhance chords

Sounds interesting, what does it mean?

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:23 am

aMUSEd wrote:
Dynamic microtuning to enhance chords
Sounds interesting, what does it mean?

Indeed...maybe something like hermode tuning?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:48 am

Cinebient wrote:[I know many will disagree and i said it more than one time but i still found no synth where i get such smooth interpolations between the waves like in Dune 2. Even wavetables with just 2 waveforms and slow modulation added to morph between them sounds great while i always get a kind of microstepping with other synths (yes...beside Zebra 2 maybe) in this case.

I really don't get what you mean with that "microstepping" thing. In Largo e.g., the interpolation between waves in a wavetable is absolutely smooth, i don't hear any microstepping. If you want, you can post some sound example of that phenomene, maybe it becomes more clear then. I don't really see why any synth would microstep, because i don't think that waveform morphing is really THAT difficult to implement.

Echoes in the Attic · Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:52 am

Cinebient wrote:I like the sound of the wavetable synth in Icarus much more than in Falcon.

Hardly a fair comparison to Falcon. The wavetable oscillator in Falcon is like finger nails on a chalkboard. It is truly terrible sounding. This is coming from an owner and lover of falcon.

db3 · Post by **db3** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:03 am

recursive one wrote:The more I play with it, the more i love it. Oscillator morph it super fun Love these FM modes, they may go absolutely crazy but still sound good. No way to control unison stereo spread? Or is it hidden somewhere?

Not spotted that. Only the various fixed stereo unison options.

exmatproton · Post by **exmatproton** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:05 am

Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Cinebient wrote:I like the sound of the wavetable synth in Icarus much more than in Falcon.
Hardly a fair comparison to Falcon. The wavetable oscillator in Falcon is like finger nails on a chalkboard. It is truly terrible sounding. This is coming from an owner and lover of falcon.

I really enjoy the "harsh" sound of Falcon's WT module. Awesome stuff

. I guess it is mainly subjective. So is the love for this Icarus synth.

Tone2 will release Icarus - 3D WaveTable Synthesizer