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Stefken · Post by **Stefken** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:53 pm

Stefken wrote: * sleepy mode: cannot see a real change in the CPU consumption. When playing, the meter in Ableton 9.7 bounces between 15 and 40%. When not playing: not much different. I would expect a significant change as you're using a draft mode then.

Using: Windows 7 64 bit, I7-4790K, 16G DDRIII, Ableton 9.7 standard 64 bit, Repro1-beta2 vst2 64 bit.

Any word/advice on this?
I see not others have reported this. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but basically it's putting on zzz mode and not playing anything for some time right?

To make it more specific so it's easier to reproduce.

Only applications Ableton Live 9.7 and repro1-5279 were 'actively running' if you know what I mean.
I used the patch "TAS Shorty" in "08 seq - Basslines". Meter in Ableton was bouncing quite stable between 21 and 28%. When looking at taskmanagement, I can see that one core is pulling the load and I get some spikes now and then (spikes reaching like 50% on the core where overall level is much lower (around 10%)).

When not playing for some time, nothing changed much. Meter in Ableton is little lower (bouncing from 19 to 24%). Spikes also happening.
(see printscreen; the printscreen shows the situation when not playing for some time).

bobhva · Post by **bobhva** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:08 pm

ceasless wrote:If you are on the fence, wondering whether you should get this..

The answer is yes. Yes, you should.

It's not that easy for everyone. I am really on the fence about purchasing this. I like the sound/character of this, but it is nothing that I don't have 10+ others that sound very similar and the fact that it is a mono synth is somewhat limiting. My favorite feature of this is probably the built in sequencer. I need to decide before the pre-release special goes away because for me $99 is too high. Not that this is not worth that price - just not to me since I have way too many plugins already.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:21 pm

Stefken wrote:Any word/advice on this?
I see not others have reported this. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but basically it's putting on zzz mode and not playing anything for some time right?

In zZz mode the current beta only lowers the CPU usage of the filter. The final version will also lower CPU usage of the oscillator, for a quite massive improvement.

However, some processing will take place, but it will be about 1/20 of the non-zZz mode. If the operating system samples the moment where this 1/20 happens, it'll for a short time see a moment of steep action.

The problem is that VST plug-ins do not process continuously. They process in small chunks of samples (like, what's set as buffersize). The operating system has no way of knowing about this, and the granularity of the process. So when it samples a VST during a process call, it needs to somehow interpret the CPU usage. Which it may take for CPU spikes. Hence, I'm not sure if Task Managers are better at visualizing CPU or host software. Latter often exaggerate.

The Sarge! · Post by **The Sarge!** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:25 pm

bobhva wrote:
ceasless wrote:If you are on the fence, wondering whether you should get this..

The answer is yes. Yes, you should.
It's not that easy for everyone. I am really on the fence about purchasing this. I like the sound/character of this, but it is nothing that I don't have 10+ others that sound very similar and the fact that it is a mono synth is somewhat limiting. My favorite feature of this is probably the built in sequencer. I need to decide before the pre-release special goes away because for me $99 is too high. Not that this is not worth that price - just not to me since I have way too many plugins already.

exact the same "problem" here!
at the moment the money AND the not seeing of a must-have
I agree, the sounds are mostly lovely, but a lot of them can be created by other plugs I own (but not all in that quality?!)
but being an amateur just-for-fun-musican it´s not the point that I need
on the other hand: there are some wonderful created presets from my prefered music-style "Berliner Schule"
but did not everyone who like this stuff soon release tracks with that presets?

I´m so very unsure and 80€ are near the line I wanna pay (at the moment) but seeing that it cost 111€ from the 6th December makes me sad and I know that the people @ u-he deserve it

unfortunately I´m not a preset-designer, so 80-111€ for roundabout 25 Presets seems too much for me

#rob · Post by **#rob** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:30 pm

The Sarge! wrote:I´m not a preset-designer, so 80-111€ for roundabout 25 Presets seems too much for me

The release version will have exponentially more than that. I think we're counting 500 at the moment, that's not including INIT patches.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:33 pm

The Sarge! wrote:roundabout 25 Presets

Current beta (see first post of this thread) has more than 400, final has 500, as Rob points out. The presets thread in this forum has another few hundred for free download.

The Sarge! · Post by **The Sarge!** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:44 pm

hi Rob and Urs
that´s my problem since the 80s: when I have to write in english (I´m german, you know) then the really important points didn´t come out as I want to say
so here (sorry to all others) in german:
ich brauche nunmal keine 375 neuen Bässe und Leads, da helfen mir Eure Synths (habe ja alle, ausser dem RePro) und meine restlichen VSTi schon vollkommen, aber die von mir erwähnten 25 sind alle mit dem integrierten Sequencer gemacht und die geafllen mir sehr gut - aber da kommt so ein Magengefühl auf "80-100 Euro hast für die paar Dir gefallenen Sounds ausgegeben" - wisst ihr was ich meine?

and not to discriminate the others: I don´t need 375 more/new Basses and Leads. having enough due to owning all u-he-Synths plus lots of other VSTi and some Hardware (E-MU, Yamaha, Roland) so the only 25 sounds I really love from the 400 beta-sounds are from those lovely SEQ-Presets
and so for me there´s a bad feeling in the stomache which says "hey, are you crazy? you pay 80-100€ for just this?" - do you know what I mean/where my problem is?

regards,
The Sarge!

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:49 pm

It's totally okay to not need Repro-1. I'm not selling it to you for just the bass sequences

mevla · Post by **mevla** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:19 pm

Moin moin,

One minor thing which affects all u-he synths under Linux: would it be possible to make the display of a patch information in such a way that it is possible to read the text in its entirety ? Currently the lines do not wrap properly so they extend beyond reading. Fixing this would also promote writing information for custom patches !

tschüss

mevla · Post by **mevla** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:46 pm

A question regarding the current beta: if favorites are marked, will they be preserved with the official release ?

(asking because this is a beta)

Thanks.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:37 pm

mevla wrote:A question regarding the current beta: if favorites are marked, will they be preserved with the official release ?

Yes, I can't imagine why they wouldn't.

knowix · Post by **knowix** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:00 pm

Playing through the presets, some of the sound designers definitely reminded me why some people say a Prophet (albeit Prophet 5) was likely to have been used by Boards Of Canada.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:02 pm

Urs wrote:
mevla wrote:A question regarding the current beta: if favorites are marked, will they be preserved with the official release ?
Yes, I can't imagine why they wouldn't.

However I expect with the additional patches in the final I will have to thru the categories again to see if any of the new ones I want to favourite..... Yes nice problems to have

I assume the new ones will be mixed in with the current ones?
rsp

Stefken · Post by **Stefken** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:07 pm

bobhva wrote: It's not that easy for everyone. I am really on the fence about purchasing this. I like the sound/character of this, but it is nothing that I don't have 10+ others that sound very similar....

I beg to differ. The sound quality of this softsynth is very high. You don't get that with most other softsynths.
It all depends what you call similar. Optical lenses (like different 85mm lenses) can also be quite 'similar', only one costs 300 euro and the other 1800 euro. There is a reason for that though. The devil is in the details....

This synth has a specific character, specific filter behaviour and an analogue feel that makes it different from others.

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:17 pm

Forget the presets, Repro-1 isn't about presets. It's about easily tweakable analogue sound - with total recall of as many parallel instances as your system will allow.

As a u-he employee I'm (cough) slightly biased, but I'm surely allowed to proclaim that I'm truly gobsmacked by the authenticity of Repro-1's circuit-level modeling. Especially the filter.

(phew - finally got that off my chest)

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