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Psyclapse · Post by **Psyclapse** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:32 pm

Aliens wrote:No brainer is an overused term, but 10 bucks, you're mental to pass it in.

Any VST will add overhead.. there are other costs aside from ten bucks. Same with so-called freebies. Time to register an account, download it, install it, activate it. Time to learn how to use it, especially. Space on your hard drive. More stuff to backup. More stuff to move when you buy a new 'puter. Another VST for your DAW to scan every time it starts up. Another vendor sending you emails. More expansions and presets to ponder over.

All adds up. These days I think very carefully about bargains and freebies - do I really need it? Will add anything to what Ive already got? Because as the old addage says there is no such thing as a free lunch.

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:32 pm

Aliens wrote:Anyone who is able to buy this but doesn't is missing out on the synth plug bargain of the century.
Chose a big mac combo over this deal and you deserve the type two diabetes, stroke or heart attack that may follow.
No brainer is an overused term, but 10 bucks, you're mental to pass it in.

Well, I'm a vegan who ain't buying big macs, and am no longer going to buy things I don't need, regardless of the price.

So, there's that

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:33 pm

in anyone can buy it for me i will pay $5 for fees? or more?

pm

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:35 pm

It's a no-brainer for someone wanting it, for sure. For someone not wanting it, not so. At least i don't feel the need to buy something catching dust on my computer's, or my external harddrive anyway. I just can talk for myself, but, the times i tried it, it was a blatantly uninspiring instrument for me, and i do need inspiration from my equipment, otherwise making music with it is not fun for me.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:46 pm

Zombie Queen wrote:
AnX wrote:If you really have $10 burning a hole in your pocket, donate it to a good cause, help someone who needs it.
I reckon, Synthmaster dev needs it.

If that was true, he would be selling it on his site, so anyone could buy it.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:58 pm

chk071 wrote:It's a no-brainer for someone wanting it, for sure. For someone not wanting it, not so. At least i don't feel the need to buy something catching dust on my computer's, or my external harddrive anyway. I just can talk for myself, but, the times i tried it, it was a blatantly uninspiring instrument for me, and i do need inspiration from my equipment, otherwise making music with it is not fun for me.

I don't agree at all, and I'm super picky. I think that it's a rather unique layered and truly multimode synth. It's fairly fast to program as well. I think that the dev has found a nice balance between the generic algorithm complexity of synths like FM8 and the simplicity, in terms of FM/PM, of most VA synths that try to include that as a feature.

I think that it will replace FM8 for a lot of FM type sounds for me.

cyberheater · Post by **cyberheater** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:59 pm

Anyone from the UK get their code yet?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:01 pm

ghettosynth wrote: I don't agree at all

You don't have to. Just my opinion.

wickfut · Post by **wickfut** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:11 pm

cyberheater wrote:Anyone from the UK get their code yet?

I think it's about 7-8am over there, give it a few hours.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:13 pm

chk071 wrote:
ghettosynth wrote: I don't agree at all
You don't have to. Just my opinion.

Of course, I'm not really posting for you. I'm being specific for people who might read your post and wonder what to think about it. Really, I do think that this qualifies as a "no-brainer", even though I hate that term.

There really aren't many synths with (continuously) variable mode or variable slope filters and I don't know of any other synth that has both. The FM/PM capabilities are also rather cool. Decent fx, and multisegment envelopes.

I think that if you like programming and often find yourself in between a VA and FM8 that this fills a really nice niche. There are really important choices here, such as the ability to have up to four modulated carriers. That's great for organ and epiano like sounds. However, the versatile filters and fx allow you to create cool variations on those kinds of sounds.

I don't think that it compares to Bazille or Reaktor in terms of absolute sound quality, but, it would take forever to patch up some of the complex routings that you can achieve in Synthmaster.

My biggest criticism of it so far is really that it seems to still have a few bugs. I don't think that it's quite as stable as other synths.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:38 pm

I see it this way. The most useless purchase of 2016 for me was u-he ACE. 15$ but still huge disappointment. Have not used this one at all. Just did not need that much (another VA) but thought that maybe it would be nice to get a proper u-he synth. But when I played with it I felt just no love nor inspiration. I'm sure I will eventually learn and use it.

With Synthmaster I already had the paid Player version which does get use by myself and also by my brother who also has it. So there's at least some chance that the full version could be useful. And it's not just another boring VA either but could add something to my setup sound making wise. I obviously do not need it badly or anything as I have more than enough synths already. So it remains to be seen but I'm hopeful. Haven't had time to install it yet though.

Nah... probably trying to get over the cognitive dissonance here by justifying my purchase.

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:13 pm

robotmonkey wrote:... u-he ACE. 15$ but still huge disappointment... thought that maybe it would be nice to get a proper u-he synth. But when I played with it I felt just no love nor inspiration...

Concerning that point I would have taken Zebra rather than ACE.

Zebra, in addition to its plethora of additional free and commercial soundsets (which can be used as starting points for personal inspirations to create new own presets) is in itself an amazing source of inspiration for new sounds, new modulations... and total blasts. It is probable one of the most comprehensive workhorses for a universe of inspirations.

Beside Zebra, ACE is a wonderful instrument, of course... but very conventional in comparison to Zebra.

There are many other synths which could match the criteria, of course, but my answer here is focused on the U-He stuff as you pointed out this : "... thought that maybe it would be nice to get a proper u-he synth..."

Not the same price of course (ACE is $69 and Zebra is $199) but by waiting two or three months more to put each month some bucks in the piggy bank it is actually possible to afford it. And for sure it would have been your total blast of the year.

gremlinmoon · Post by **gremlinmoon** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:08 pm

I bought it just so I can go into Guitar Center with my laptop and say, "I just bought this synth from you guys but kinda feel ripped off because I have no idea how it even works -- could you show me how to program it?"

Paree · Post by **Paree** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:10 pm

Only USA

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:17 pm

gremlinmoon wrote:I bought it just so I can go into Guitar Center with my laptop and say, "I just bought this synth from you guys but kinda feel ripped off because I have no idea how it even works -- could you show me how to program it?"

Get down to the bottom of that list:
https://www.kv331audio.com/downloads.aspx

Synthmaster for $10