Hey all! I have mentioned this before in some other threads, but I'm an Ableton Live convert. I relied very heavily on the built in FX that Live had, so I have never really explored free or paid FX plugins. Just wanted to gauge the community to see how good DAW essentials was. I have not yet purchased Waveform, so it would only be an extra $50 I believe.
Thanks!
Community opinions: is DAW essentials worth it?
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- KVRAF
- 3227 posts since 4 Jan, 2005
I'd checkout the demo of the DAW essentials ... IMHO the EQ , Limiter , and Delays felt like they were worth the extra $50. I haven't dived too far into the compressor or reverbs ... I got the DAW essentials bundle with Waveform ... You can use them in other hosts too ..
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- KVRist
- 212 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from France
I've got recently the DAW essentials with my copy of Waveform, so I have not had a lot of time to test them deeply...
At a first approach, from my point of view, they are very "inspired" by the FabFilter plugs... and seems to be very intuitive to work with.
The only "complain" I would have, is that for the moment, there is a lack of presets with them (in the actual version here - 64 bit, Mac).
But testing them very quickly, it seems to me they are a very very interesting and indispensable plugs to have (except if you have yet bought your preferred plugs)...
At a first approach, from my point of view, they are very "inspired" by the FabFilter plugs... and seems to be very intuitive to work with.
The only "complain" I would have, is that for the moment, there is a lack of presets with them (in the actual version here - 64 bit, Mac).
But testing them very quickly, it seems to me they are a very very interesting and indispensable plugs to have (except if you have yet bought your preferred plugs)...
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- KVRAF
- 3227 posts since 4 Jan, 2005
There is some good freeware 64bit too out there . GVST has an autotune Gsnap I believe and a Gtuner ( guitar tuner ) that are free ... Reaper has the Reaplugins that are good and free , Toneboosters has some free stuff I think there Bitcrusher sounds snazzy ... Things I think you may miss from Ableton are clip launcher mode , simpler , drumracks , the Glue compressor , EQ8 , maybe the included instruments and loops maybe ? You can piece meal all this stuff with a combo of freeware and 3rd party paystuff ... Except for the clip launcher mode , that's what makes Live and Bitwig unique ...
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- KVRian
- 1322 posts since 3 May, 2005 from Victoria, BC
Do you mean there aren't enough presets or you aren't seeing any presets?Lutin mutin wrote: The only "complain" I would have, is that for the moment, there is a lack of presets with them (in the actual version here - 64 bit, Mac).
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- KVRist
- 212 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from France
I mean that I am seeing no presets at all...
And I thought that they will be proposed in future releases... due to the fact that the "DAW essentials" is a very new package...
And I remember that at the very beginning, all the plugins of the Reaper DAW were excellent, but with no presets at all... and is also one of the reasons I am not an enthusiastic of Reaper... but this is an other thread...
And I thought that they will be proposed in future releases... due to the fact that the "DAW essentials" is a very new package...
And I remember that at the very beginning, all the plugins of the Reaper DAW were excellent, but with no presets at all... and is also one of the reasons I am not an enthusiastic of Reaper... but this is an other thread...
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- KVRian
- 615 posts since 30 Apr, 2003 from London, UK
Strange - they have all got plenty presets. Can be selected at top-middle of interface. eg Compressor has presets subdivided into bass drums guitar vocal categories. I've only tried them in Waveform (on Win 7) but presets are there.
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- KVRist
- 212 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from France
ah ?
I will have to post an email to the support of TSC... in order to understand what's happening here on my machine...
Thank you for the information "operandx" !
So, I retract my previous information : don't take into account my opinion concerning the "no presets" in the DAW essentials... it's just a malfunction on my machine !
Sorry !
I will have to post an email to the support of TSC... in order to understand what's happening here on my machine...
Thank you for the information "operandx" !
So, I retract my previous information : don't take into account my opinion concerning the "no presets" in the DAW essentials... it's just a malfunction on my machine !
Sorry !
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- KVRian
- 1322 posts since 3 May, 2005 from Victoria, BC
In the finder, if you go to the folder ~/Library/Audio/Presets/Tracktion what do you see? You should see a folder for each plugin and inside a folder named factory with all the presets.
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- KVRAF
- 37518 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
They also seem very inspired by the Logic plugins - especially the tape echo and delay
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- KVRist
- 212 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from France
Hello FigBug !
In the finder, when I go to the folder you indicate, I have only 2 folders :
- BioTek (with 2 other folders in it - Instruments and Samples), and
- Collective (with 2 folders in it too -> Instruments and Samples)
I have no other folder in it.
And when I go to my "user">library>etc..., there is no Tracktion folder.
And when I click inside each plugin, I have no access to nothing... in each of the 16 plugins.
Just written "factory default", and when I click to "factory default", a little window opens with 3 lines :
- one line with "factory default"
- one line with "save as" - in black (and 2 other lines very faded grey : "save" and "delete")
- and on the last line "show preset folder". And when I click on "show preset folder", it happens... nothing... and the presets window closes, like it was before I click on it at the first time. The plugin GUI shows just "factory default"... as before...
Strange, isn't it ?
So... no preset at all...
In the finder, when I go to the folder you indicate, I have only 2 folders :
- BioTek (with 2 other folders in it - Instruments and Samples), and
- Collective (with 2 folders in it too -> Instruments and Samples)
I have no other folder in it.
And when I go to my "user">library>etc..., there is no Tracktion folder.
And when I click inside each plugin, I have no access to nothing... in each of the 16 plugins.
Just written "factory default", and when I click to "factory default", a little window opens with 3 lines :
- one line with "factory default"
- one line with "save as" - in black (and 2 other lines very faded grey : "save" and "delete")
- and on the last line "show preset folder". And when I click on "show preset folder", it happens... nothing... and the presets window closes, like it was before I click on it at the first time. The plugin GUI shows just "factory default"... as before...
Strange, isn't it ?
So... no preset at all...
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- KVRist
- 212 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from France
I have not found a "preset folder" for all the Essentials plugins to download on the Tracktion website.
So, after the TSC team will have fixed the actual Waveform issues, I will ask the Tracktion support team a help on this problem... because for the moment, it's not really urgent to solve...
So, after the TSC team will have fixed the actual Waveform issues, I will ask the Tracktion support team a help on this problem... because for the moment, it's not really urgent to solve...
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 14 posts since 2 Dec, 2015
Actually that's one of the reasons I left Ableton...I have no use for clip/live performance mode. I also prefer to compose using mouse and keyboard rather than a midi controller. I think over time the workflow benefits will be worth more than the few Ableton specific things I liked.fedexnman wrote:There is some good freeware 64bit too out there . GVST has an autotune Gsnap I believe and a Gtuner ( guitar tuner ) that are free ... Reaper has the Reaplugins that are good and free , Toneboosters has some free stuff I think there Bitcrusher sounds snazzy ... Things I think you may miss from Ableton are clip launcher mode , simpler , drumracks , the Glue compressor , EQ8 , maybe the included instruments and loops maybe ? You can piece meal all this stuff with a combo of freeware and 3rd party paystuff ... Except for the clip launcher mode , that's what makes Live and Bitwig unique ...
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- KVRist
- 473 posts since 1 Feb, 2006
i guess the daw essentials are a good start to get you covered with the basic plugin needs.
another option would be toneboosters track essentials bundle.
take a look if things you need are in these bundles..
from there you can add plugins (paied or free) as your needs grow.
another option would be toneboosters track essentials bundle.
take a look if things you need are in these bundles..
from there you can add plugins (paied or free) as your needs grow.
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- KVRist
- 80 posts since 6 Nov, 2016
I bought DAW Essentials for $99. And my favourites was: Compressor, Delay Studio, Equalizer and Reverber8. That's an acceptable $24.75 per unit. However, it is worth pointing out that I prefer the free TDR Kotelnikov over Compressor and the free Oril River over Reverber8. So we could probably argue about the actual worth of DAW Essentials in my case.draetheus wrote:Hey all! I have mentioned this before in some other threads, but I'm an Ableton Live convert. I relied very heavily on the built in FX that Live had, so I have never really explored free or paid FX plugins. Just wanted to gauge the community to see how good DAW essentials was. I have not yet purchased Waveform, so it would only be an extra $50 I believe.
Thanks!