Tracktion Software

vitocorleone123 · Post by **vitocorleone123** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:48 am

I just finished restoring my main drive from a backup in order to 100% eliminate the Windows 10 Creators Update because it seemed to break a few of my favorite plugins - not just in Waveform (and T7)... I downloaded the Reaper demo and they were broken in there, as well. They'd function if already applied in a song, but any of the DAWs in which I attempted to open to make changes in the plugin UI would crash the DAW to desktop.

Be forewarned: backup your computer before applying the forthcoming Windows 10 update.

I've elected to NOT receive the update for a few months (to give me time to see if others have the issue or just me) by going into Settings > Updates & Security > Advanced > "Defer Feature Updates".

pathworker · Post by **pathworker** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:23 pm

Good idea to hold off on creators edition. although it is slated for general release on Tuesday 11 April i would strongly advise against updating, a lot of user control has been removed. and is being replaced with what I can only describe as cookbook options.
fine for people who don't use specialized applications or just want to "get up and go" but if you need very fine control of any critical settings you are increasingly at the mercy of Microsoft who are likely to be supplementing future releases with heavy promotion of their "premium" support services.

Peter Widdicombe · Post by **Peter Widdicombe** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:44 am

Just saw the splash screen from Microsoft today - Windows 10 Creators is being rammed down our throats shortly ...

Now it WILL have a "gaming mode" that will prioritize the active application. Wonder if it will have an impact on audio glitches when the ASIO latency is lowered ?

AegisPrime · Post by **AegisPrime** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:15 pm

Peter Widdicombe wrote:Now it WILL have a "gaming mode" that will prioritize the active application. Wonder if it will have an impact on audio glitches when the ASIO latency is lowered ?

The 'benefits' of the gaming mode in Win 10 are being discussed here:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=482732

solomute · Post by **solomute** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:49 pm

According to many internet reports win10 is most unstable. Keep to win7 within nearest 10 years and stay away from gaming.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:20 pm

Accordingly to many other internet reports Windows 10 is solid and better than Windows 7 in most ways that matter, take your pick on the reports of others!

I personally run Windows 10 on 3 machines, one for pro audio, never had a single problem and never need to tweak anything anymore, I am more than happy (I also run hive VR and high end graphics stuff, Windows is getting to be the first choice for this stuff also)

tovokas · Post by **tovokas** » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:07 am

Win 10 has been far more reliable for me as well. One BSOD in 18 months of use. (And that was due to a dying WiFi card).

Granted, like all versions of windows, strangeness will accumulate with time. (I lost the onscreen keyboard for my touch monitor for the last 3 months before a fresh install. A pain, but I actually experienced much more of those sorts of shenanigans during my OSX years, and I had settled into a pattern of performing fresh installs with each new version on my Macbook as well. YMMV).

vitocorleone123 · Post by **vitocorleone123** » Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:51 pm

Windows, like Macs, haves its share of fans, haters, and frenemies. The merits of the OS aren't the point of this thread. I would, however, love to know if anyone that updates to Win10 Creator's has issues with plugins (separately from issues with Waveform+plugins).

vivaldi0 · Post by **vivaldi0** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:18 pm

My entire waves plugins is hosed now that the "creator" update is on my system. Fu$k!

netsvetaev · Post by **netsvetaev** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:22 pm

Melda plugins also doesn't work since this update. Waveform just crashes after them opening.

tovokas · Post by **tovokas** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:56 pm

Is it breaking the Waves and Melda plugins in other DAWs as well, or just Waveform?

netsvetaev · Post by **netsvetaev** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:27 am

tovokas wrote:Is it breaking the Waves and Melda plugins in other DAWs as well, or just Waveform?

Wavosaur also quit immediately after I tried to view the vst's gui. They works in both (affects the audio tracks) but I can't open them for editing.

Mucrafta · Post by **Mucrafta** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:07 am

Best Service Engine doesnt working after w10 update no audio comes out. in fl studio too.
before w10 update its working in both.

fedexnman · Post by **fedexnman** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:33 am

Great (sarcasm) I'm unplugging my Ethernet cable before I boot next time ...... Seems wierd that this is in the Tracktion section and not KVRaudio Computer System Setups forum ?

vitocorleone123 · Post by **vitocorleone123** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:43 pm

Here are some steps from WinCentral to at least postpone the Creator's update (as I have done and briefly outlined in the first post) for a couple of months - during which time I hope MSFT and/or the software developers can straighten things out:

http://www.windowscentral.com/how-delay ... pc-and-why

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Windows 10 Creators update MAY break some plugins