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recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Wed May 03, 2017 8:03 pm

Well, looks like a really solid update

Does ANA 2 do FM? I noted some FM-ish patch in a demo you posted at FB, is it an FM-like wavetable or real frequency modulation?

Phil Sonic Academy · Post by **Phil Sonic Academy** » Wed May 03, 2017 8:06 pm

recursive one wrote:Well, looks like a really solid update

Does ANA 2 do FM? I noted some FM-ish patch in a demo you posted at FB, is it an FM-like wavetable or real frequency modulation?

The FB teaser was a wavetable but we do have Real FM too... you can use the other oscs or the sub as your FM source.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Wed May 03, 2017 8:09 pm

Kinda like Serum? Sweet

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Wed May 03, 2017 8:10 pm

Is there an ETA on the release date?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed May 03, 2017 8:27 pm

I don't think so, but:

Phil Sonic Academy wrote: We are hoping to get some early Betas out next week to sound designers then will open it up a bit towards release late May early June.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Wed May 03, 2017 8:40 pm

chk071 wrote:I don't think so, but:
Phil Sonic Academy wrote: We are hoping to get some early Betas out next week to sound designers then will open it up a bit towards release late May early June.

Cool. I wonder if I can get in on the beta to whip up some sounds?

kurodo · Post by **kurodo** » Wed May 03, 2017 8:59 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Cool. I wonder if I can get in on the beta to whip up some sounds?

Good luck with that request but I don't think SA are exactly throwing it out there.

Basing my assumption on a cool SA interview between Chris Agnelli & Dom Kane.

fluffy_little_something · Wed May 03, 2017 9:00 pm

Factory presets have to have a certain quality as people might evaluate the demo version based on them, and ultimately not buy it because of mediocre presets.

I wonder if I can finally get rid of the money that's been sitting in my PP account for ages

VELLISLAV · Post by **VELLISLAV** » Fri May 05, 2017 7:06 am

Maan i'm really excited about this release - please send me beta - i'll make brutal stuff with it for free for you - also hope the price to be good i mean under 150 euro

sacer · Post by **sacer** » Fri May 05, 2017 9:19 am

will it be compatible to old v1.5 presets ? or can it handle ana 1 soundbanks ?

Phil Sonic Academy · Post by **Phil Sonic Academy** » Fri May 05, 2017 10:12 am

sacer wrote:will it be compatible to old v1.5 presets ? or can it handle ana 1 soundbanks ?

The code is completely new so not compatible although we have started working on a converter.... its not there yet but we hope we can get something that gets the presets as close as possible.

Synthman2000 · Post by **Synthman2000** » Fri May 05, 2017 10:33 am

I will certainly look forwards to a demo of this synth.

fluffy_little_something · Fri May 05, 2017 1:15 pm

Phil Sonic Academy wrote:
sacer wrote:will it be compatible to old v1.5 presets ? or can it handle ana 1 soundbanks ?
The code is completely new so not compatible although we have started working on a converter.... its not there yet but we hope we can get something that gets the presets as close as possible.

Judging from this thread, the new version will focus much more on wavetable stuff, right? So, does it even make sense to continue calling the synth Ana, which I assume is short for analog? Why not give it a new name, which would also make it unnecessary to port presets.
I don't think it makes sense to use 'version' when synths are not fully backward compatible. I didn't like that with Dune 1 and 2, either.

Phil Sonic Academy · Post by **Phil Sonic Academy** » Fri May 05, 2017 1:34 pm

Yeah of course the ideal scenario would have been full compatibility. unfortunately ANA 1 was built on a completely different framework than 2 so it just wasn't possible. We think we should get the converter to be useful... we did it for kick 1 > 2. admittedly there are way more variables with ANA 1 > 2

The Initial Idea of ANA still stands... Analog Noise Attack. We just combined the Noise and attack stuff in to a single better featured sampler.

The Main focus for ANA 2 where better OSCs with Less aliasing and a fatter cleaner sound with modeled filters.

We where actually working on the wavetable thing as a separate synth after ANA 1.5 was released... then Serum came out. that changed a lot really... we parked the wavetable stuff since serum basically nailed it.

Then we decided to just do ANA 2 and we had the wavetable stuff there so we just combined it in.

ANA 2 isnt a wubwub synth although it does that well too... Most of our users are in to Techno, House, Progressive House and Trance etc. so the presets will reflect that.... but of course we will have a tone of Wubs for the bass freaks.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri May 05, 2017 2:07 pm

Frankly, i never cared for backwards coompatibility of a new version of a synth. As long as you can keep both installed, it doesn't matter to me. A newer version most probably also means that the sound engine is either rewritten, or has been improved, so, backwards compatibility will be a tedious thing to do, so, why not just keep version 1 and 2 separated. Never really got the fuss about backwards compatibility. Totally unnecessary IMO.

Sonic Academy new synth!