Obxd synthesizer

[aciddose]

Most of the code seems to be taken in part from posts here on KVR. For example the filter is based upon mystran's work. The oscillator also seems so. I didn't look in much detail as I wasn't interested much after I saw that. My interest was "which osc/filter does it use?" and "how does the GUI work?"

The GUI and project IIRC are default spec JUCE? That's one reason I wouldn't want to touch it.

Being motivated to refactor is actually a bad thing. It's a massive amount of work that is needed in a majority of open-source projects to make them maintainable. I wouldn't benefit much from such a refactor; you all would. If the code had already been refactored by me I suspect you'd have a lot of people volunteering to work on it. It would be much easier to work with and almost free of the sort of bugs it's currently plagued by.

[chk071]

Most of the code seems to be taken in part from posts here on KVR. For example the filter is based upon mystran's work. The oscillator also seems so. I didn't look in much detail as I wasn't interested much after I saw that.

Isn't that a big part of the point why people post their code snipplets here though? To share what they worked out, so that others can build on it?

[aciddose]

Of course. I'm just pointing out that it isn't particularly interesting to me as a programmer. I don't find it personally interesting as an instrument either as it doesn't sound better than my own code for similar filter and osc implementations; I find such implementations quite expensive to process which makes 100+ voices of unison impossible.

Different things appeal to different people though.

[Admirallo]

I'm just pointing out that it isn't particularly interesting to me as a programmer. I don't find it personally interesting as an instrument either as it doesn't sound better than my own code for similar filter and osc implementations

Wow! Hello there, mister! Way to diminish and disregard other developer's synth, who's not even present to say anything, while going full-on advertising yourself and your own code. How very arrogant and low class. Happened to think better of you. Seems I was mistaken.

OK, OK, we absolutely get it you don't wanna touch it, you are not interested in any of it (BTW what's the point in repeating it over and over?) and have repeated strong opinions on what is otherwise a fine sounding synthesizer plugin. But you have your own developer thing going on, your synth and your agenda to push. We get it. You wanna show off you are so amazing at programming you simply can't be bothered with this synth and it's almost like it's not worthy of any attention. It's not true though. It is worthy and that's why DiscoDSP paid attention to begin with. You might be good at programming, but sound like a complete asshole to me.

It would be interesting to do a poll, to which synth the community regards the most. Rest assured, my money won't be on xhip.

Now, guys, lets move on and find a dev who is more appreciative of the actual OBXD synth, shall we? and xhip guys shall keep to xhip threads, I'm sure there's enough bugs and inconsistencies of your own to speculate and moan about. And fix as well!

This is not cool, xhip guy. Shame on you. Get back to your synth.

[Ingonator]

I think y'all should give up on music and become full time c++ programmers instead.

Or maybe you should continue the develpment and then call it "OB-Xhip"...

I've seen the source code.

Well, obviously due to this and your later comments you did not notice that my reply was meant as a joke...

Anyway it would be good to see a developer taking over the development for OB-Xd where of course it should stay freeware.

I am not using many free synth plugins at the moment also as i got lots of great commercial plugins and also some hardware synths but OB-Xd is one of those that i used since a while now, actually since the first versions were released.

[chk071]

I think for now i'm fine with what OBXd has to offer, and it's worth waiting to see whether u-he or Synapse release a OB emulation. I'm quite positive that something will come in that regard.

[Russell Grand]

The DiscoDSP version is excellent as-is and can still be downloaded from it's KVR page. Not sure I see what the problem is.
The synth seems nice and complete as it is, so what's the fuss? Just download and play away!

[Ingonator]

The DiscoDSP version is excellent as-is and can still be downloaded from it's KVR page. Not sure I see what the problem is.
The synth seems nice and complete as it is, so what's the fuss? Just download and play away!

For Windows users like me i do not see real problems soon but with Mac/OSX plugins could stop working with any new OS update published by Apple.

[Halonmusic]

Great. So when can you start?

[Russell Grand]

The DiscoDSP version is excellent as-is and can still be downloaded from it's KVR page. Not sure I see what the problem is.
The synth seems nice and complete as it is, so what's the fuss? Just download and play away!

For Windows users like me i do not see real problems soon but with Mac/OSX plugins could stop working with any new OS update published by Apple.

Great point, Ingonator. I had not even considered that.

[Mutant]

I'm just pointing out that it isn't particularly interesting to me as a programmer. I don't find it personally interesting as an instrument either as it doesn't sound better than my own code for similar filter and osc implementations

Wow! Hello there, mister! Way to diminish and disregard other developer's synth, who's not even present to say anything, while going full-on advertising yourself and your own code. How very arrogant and low class. Happened to think better of you. Seems I was mistaken.

He said the truth - OBXD doesn't sound better than Xhip (and is way less capable, except the SVF).
And no, he never said that OBXD sounds bad.
And yes, Xhip is the absolute top of freeware synths and can even do many Oberheim'ish sounds.

[Kumi_27]

I'm just pointing out that it isn't particularly interesting to me as a programmer. I don't find it personally interesting as an instrument either as it doesn't sound better than my own code for similar filter and osc implementations

Wow! Hello there, mister! Way to diminish and disregard other developer's synth,

Read again, what he wrote, this time without prejudice.
He only stated, that the code is not interesting for him - to pick up, maintain and modify. Not that the synth is sounding bad.

As a programmer myself, I can understand him very well - just now I'm commisioning some automation programs written by someone else and it's a royal PITA. Really, sometimes it's faster and better to scratch something and write own code, than to find bugs in foreign code, written with totally different way of thinking. And in Italian on top of that

[glokraw]

Wow! Hello there, mister! Way to diminish and disregard other developer's synth, who's not even present to say anything, while going full-on advertising yourself and your own code. How very arrogant and low class. Happened to think better of you. Seems I was mistaken...

...This is not cool, xhip guy. Shame on you. Get back to your synth.

Facts of synthesizer design strengths and flaws are just that.
Accusing accidose, of all people, of self-promotion, is laughable.
Most people here only wish that were the case!

History is repleat with synthsizers that are as dearly loved as they are
internally flawed. OB-xd included. Next time you meet Urs down at
the pub, buy him a few rounds, and ask him what he considers
to be flaws, in his own well loved product line. (hope the night is still young,
and your bar tab unlimited)
Cheers

[aciddose]

OBXD doesn't sound better than Xhip ...

Well, technically I didn't say anything even remotely like that.

What I said was it uses a significantly different filter implementation that I do not like due to the very high processing cost.

Xhip uses completely different filters! I wasn't making any comparison to Xhip. "My own implementation" refers to my own version of similar filters to those in OBXD which are used in unrelated commercial products.

I think Shy had a thread way back around 2012 about how unique the SH-101 filter was and I wrote and posted some clips of a quick emulation attempt after an hour to demonstrate that it really isn't special; it's just another one of perhaps 100s of similar designs that sound very much alike.

We got into a discussion about how much the world really needs a great SH-101 emulation; my point of view is "not at all. " I pointed out that such a project was a massive undertaking especially on the UI side and all for very insignificant results. Today there are 100s of VST plug-ins with identical filter implementations. Shh, (don't tell anyone but) ... they all use pretty much identical source-code.

[Admirallo]

Save it, guys. I know exactly what xhip guy said. And it wasn't exactly respectful to OBXD developers or users even. He basically claimed it's a very subpar offering, while trying to sort of "establish" himself. That is laughable. Or maybe it's not. He was mean and rude. It's not funny, it's shame, that's no class. You wanna dis a code, at least do it in the presence of the programmers, lets see how brave you are going to be then!

And absolutely no need repeating over and over how you're not interested in doing anything related to the issue, what is the point anyway? Why don't you just walk on by and waste time improving your own offering? No need telling how it's "inferior" to your synth, you wanna show off, you wanna proclaim yourself, go to your page full of your fans such as Mutant and jerk off there as much as you like. But you come to OBXD thread and start posting crap, basically. Donno about your books, guys, but not cool in my book and I stand by it.

aciddose please leave and don't waste everyone's time. if you don't have a thing to contribute to this thread, except having a shitty bigoted attitude towards the synth, its devs and its users, you really have zero to do with it anyway. we get it your ass is too big and important. you'll find something else to attend to, I'm sure.