Obxd synthesizer

[aciddose]

Why all the butt-hurt?

You're obviously not a programmer because one thing programmers really need is a high level of reading comprehension and a very clear understanding of highly abstract concepts.

Don't make claims that I've said things I haven't said. You can keep your fantasies inside your own head. Sharing those here, that's "not so cool in my books".

You seem awfully upset by the fact I've refused to work on this project. Why? You haven't lost anything. If you're so upset perhaps you should work on it yourself? Twenty years from now you might come back and understand my posts.

[Admirallo]

Not by the fact you've refused to work on this project! Stop lying already! That is not the reason and never was. I've never wanted or even thought of you personally to be working on it. Again, too much self-importance and entitlement on your side. Frankly, I don't give a shit if you take the job or leave it. The reason is your shitty attitude and dismissing, diminishing, disregarding the work of others, which is BTW not as bad as you say, while all proclaiming yourself as a "know it all" smartass and pushing your own agenda, whatever it is, as superior. Now don't come here with this shitty attitude and you won't have to ask why all the fuss. You know why and don't play a Bambi now.

Just get out already, you are a disgrace of a person. You might be a good programmer, though it doesn't help or relate to OBXD development stop issue in an inch, but you are a total asshole. No humility, no class, just pure arrogance and ignorance in the absence of the original programmers. It doesn't take a person to be a programmer to tell you are an arrogant asshat. It's pretty evident. You even have the nerve to keep talking!

Yes, guys, lets absolutely have accidose bla bla bla for another 10-20 pages how he's not interested in OBXD development and how he dismisses the code as rubbish! That is so much meaningful and helpful to the case. Or lets go our separate ways and lets try to find the right developer for the job (not an asshat, hopefully!).

[waltercruz]

The DiscoDSP version is excellent as-is and can still be downloaded from it's KVR page. Not sure I see what the problem is.
The synth seems nice and complete as it is, so what's the fuss? Just download and play away!

For Windows users like me i do not see real problems soon but with Mac/OSX plugins could stop working with any new OS update published by Apple.

Well, in that case, anyone with a minimal knowledge of programming and access to a Macbook with Juce Framework could compile the code with a new version of the framework (wishing that nothing breaks on compile) and provide binaries. I compiled OBXD on my computer (haven't changed anything significant in the code, just was testing Juce Framework and Xcode).

[aciddose]

The reason is your shitty attitude and dismissing, diminishing, disregarding the work of others,

I enjoy being told what I said by someone with such a vivid imagination but it's getting boring already. The secret to a good troll is to cast an effective line and bait and leave it be.

[Admirallo]

aciddose not gonna mind your BS anymore, you "the real troll of this thread". you are such a liar anyway. you've talked crap, you meant it, but you won't admit it. coward. Just 2 words 4U. And you know them.

I refuse to read any more of your entitled, self-centered BS. I've got weary of it pretty quick, I have to say. I better spend all this time looking for a developer for OBXD without all the aplomb and ego.

and you really should consider f**king off to xhip thread already. what keeps? don't you have matters to attend there? oh I'm sure you do. or is it you've lost your wallet in this thread? guys, somebody find that wallet soon enough and give it back to him!

And you, mister, consider improving not only your synth, but yourself as a person. You might have learned to code very well, but you are yet to learn how to be a decent person. You could have shown at least a little loyalty for a fellow programmer. And while you preach, remember! There are programmers in this world who run circles over you and own your ass anytime anywhere, now imagine yourself being dismissed like some f**king noob by them. Admit it, you wouldn't like it yourself. "Do not judge and..." well, you know the rest.

It's true, I'm not a programmer. I just happen to not like arrogant dicks such as yours aciddose. And you still keep blabbing even though you don't have a thing to say and even call others trolls. That's hilarious. Hypocritical. Insufferably hypocritical. As I said, no humility, no class, just pure arrogance. I get it. It's not your synth that needs fixing. It's you.

[jacqueslacouth]

aciddose not gonna mind your BS anymore, you "the real troll of this thread". you are such a liar anyway. you've talked crap, you meant it, but you won't admit it. coward. Just 2 words 4U. And you know them.

I refuse to read any more of your entitled, self-centered BS. I've got weary of it pretty quick, I have to say. I better spend all this time looking for a developer for OBXD without all the aplomb and ego.

and you really should consider f**king off to xhip thread already. what keeps? don't you have matters to attend there? oh I'm sure you do. or is it you've lost your wallet in this thread? guys, somebody find that wallet soon enough and give it back to him!

And you, mister, consider improving not only your synth, but yourself as a person. You might have learned to code very well, but you are yet to learn how to be a decent person. You could have shown at least a little loyalty for a fellow programmer. And while you preach, remember! There are programmers in this world who run circles over you and own your ass anytime anywhere, now imagine yourself being dismissed like some f**king noob by them. Admit it, you wouldn't like it yourself. "Do not judge and..." well, you know the rest.

It's true, I'm not a programmer. I just happen to not like arrogant dicks such as yours aciddose. And you still keep blabbing even though you don't have a thing to say and even call others trolls. That's hilarious. Hypocritical. Insufferably hypocritical. As I said, no humility, no class, just pure arrogance. I get it. It's not your synth that needs fixing. It's you.

You need to put the crack pipe away mate. You have some major issues, not least of which is that you are clearly an aggressive twat.

[aciddose]

I think y'all should give up on music and become full time c++ programmers instead.

Or maybe you should continue the develpment and then call it "OB-Xhip"...

I've seen the source code.

Well, obviously due to this and your later comments you did not notice that my reply was meant as a joke...

Anyway it would be good to see a developer taking over the development for OB-Xd where of course it should stay freeware.

...

I did get the joke of course

That's why I pointed out the coincidence that while you were only joking "OB-Xhip" might not be far off the mark if I actually got my hands into it. That's the main reason I wouldn't want to as I'd spend an awful lot of time not getting anything worthwhile done.

Where would you see further development effort headed? I've seen some complaints about a limited preset manager and other mostly GUI-heavy sorts of things but I haven't yet seen any posts talking about concrete issues or features they'd like to see dealt with.

My post was actually a joke too of course. Obviously in the other direction though; I assumed you got it I made that post because I couldn't imagine why OBXD would need any further development and especially why it's even an issue worthy of discussion?

Just my opinion of course; I think it would be far more productive to say something like "I've really had a lot of trouble with issue X, can anyone think of a good solution? How hard would it be to fix?" vs. "It's such a shame that a completed and entirely functional plug-in is going without further development for reasons unspecified! "

[Ingonator]

Actually like some others already pointed out the lataest version of OB-Xd was alradey working quite nicely.
Wit ha right-click at the GUI it now was even possible to get a drop-down for skins and fxb banks (besides using the built-in fxp/fxb file browser in the host like in e.g. Live 9).
Anyway having a proper patch browser in the OB-XD plugin would be nice or at least a built-in feature to load/save fxp/fxb files independent of the host (for example Cubase 9 and Bitwig do not allow saving fxp/fxp while Cubase could import them).
Even if there is a drop-down menu in the plugin to load banks for browsing trough the current bank you still need the built-in browser of the host. In the current way OB-XD mighty not work properly in all available hosts.

As i am using Windows 10 here i did not expect that OB-XD will stop working soon.

Anyway it could be possible that for certain reasons it will stop working in the future and for OSX users this might even happen soon. In that case someone who is able to create an update would be necessary.

Above someone mentioned re-compiling in a new/updated framework is easy but i am not a programmer and do not have the necessary software for re-compiling so this would for sure not be a job for me. As i do not have a Mac (and never had one) i could not do it for OSX anyway.

[aciddose]

You actually could! It's reasonably simple for a pre-configured project.

At most you'd need someone to update the XCode project file (a skilled programmer or otherwise someone familiar with XCode) and then it's a simple process of downloading the latest OSX version and latest XCode version, opening the project and selecting "Build Archive". Depending on how the project is set up you then simply copy the VST/AU as you like.

It's very similar for Windows. With a pre-configured Visual Studio project you'd simply load the project file, hit "Build" and copy the result where you want.

Even the task of updating the JUCE library version might not be too difficult depending upon how the OBXD code utilizes JUCE. Assuming it's in a fully compatible way and JUCE doesn't make any incompatible changes it should be as simple as a drag&drop operation and re-build of the project as I've just described.

It's really no more difficult than installing/removing any other kind of software if you're starting with working source-code and other components. The only reasons you'd run into trouble would be cases where there are genuine issues with the source-code or non-standard configurations of the project files. Otherwise as things evolve for the various tools those tools should continue to either work with the existing stuff or they should be able to "import" or "update" to newer formats as needed.

So unless you want to actually see work done on the software you don't need a programmer at all.

Anyone that can compile the binaries from source can also get a VST license and distribute those binaries the same as a programmer could. No programmer required.

All that stuff is the over-head associated with compiling source after all the real work has already been done. We programmers do this thousands (maybe over-estimate: a hundred at least) of times per day.

[AnX]

aciddose not gonna mind your BS anymore, you "the real troll of this thread". you are such a liar anyway. you've talked crap, you meant it, but you won't admit it. coward. Just 2 words 4U. And you know them.

I refuse to read any more of your entitled, self-centered BS. I've got weary of it pretty quick, I have to say. I better spend all this time looking for a developer for OBXD without all the aplomb and ego.

and you really should consider f**king off to xhip thread already. what keeps? don't you have matters to attend there? oh I'm sure you do. or is it you've lost your wallet in this thread? guys, somebody find that wallet soon enough and give it back to him!

And you, mister, consider improving not only your synth, but yourself as a person. You might have learned to code very well, but you are yet to learn how to be a decent person. You could have shown at least a little loyalty for a fellow programmer. And while you preach, remember! There are programmers in this world who run circles over you and own your ass anytime anywhere, now imagine yourself being dismissed like some f**king noob by them. Admit it, you wouldn't like it yourself. "Do not judge and..." well, you know the rest.

It's true, I'm not a programmer. I just happen to not like arrogant dicks such as yours aciddose. And you still keep blabbing even though you don't have a thing to say and even call others trolls. That's hilarious. Hypocritical. Insufferably hypocritical. As I said, no humility, no class, just pure arrogance. I get it. It's not your synth that needs fixing. It's you.

You need to put the crack pipe away mate. You have some major issues, not least of which is that you are clearly an aggressive twat.

+1

Some serious mental problems right there.

[Ingonator]

You actually could! It's reasonably simple for a pre-configured project.

At most you'd need someone to update the XCode project file (a skilled programmer or otherwise someone familiar with XCode) and then it's a simple process of downloading the latest OSX version and latest XCode version, opening the project and selecting "Build Archive". Depending on how the project is set up you then simply copy the VST/AU as you like.

It's very similar for Windows. With a pre-configured Visual Studio project you'd simply load the project file, hit "Build" and copy the result where you want.

Even the task of updating the JUCE library version might not be too difficult depending upon how the OBXD code utilizes JUCE. Assuming it's in a fully compatible way and JUCE doesn't make any incompatible changes it should be as simple as a drag&drop operation and re-build of the project as I've just described.

It's really no more difficult than installing/removing any other kind of software if you're starting with working source-code and other components. The only reasons you'd run into trouble would be cases where there are genuine issues with the source-code or non-standard configurations of the project files. Otherwise as things evolve for the various tools those tools should continue to either work with the existing stuff or they should be able to "import" or "update" to newer formats as needed.

So unless you want to actually see work done on the software you don't need a programmer at all.

Anyone that can compile the binaries from source can also get a VST license and distribute those binaries the same as a programmer could. No programmer required.

Sorry but Ii do not agre there. It's like telling that everyone who uses synths also must be a sound designer which obviously is not the case for many musicians that rely on using presets and 3rd party soundsets and/or simply have no time to waste for doing sound design themselves.

A i mentioned above also a built in patch browser would be a great addition for OB-XD. At the latset version you only got an option to choose from a selection of bank in a drop-down menu that appears if you right-click at the GUI.
Brwosing trough teh current bank still needs the browser of the host but not all hosts could properly handle fxp/fxb files.

[aciddose]

It's nothing like telling a musician to be a sound-designer. It's like telling a cook who complains it's too dark in the kitchen to flip on the light switch.

[Kumi_27]

You need to put the crack pipe away mate. You have some major issues, not least of which is that you are clearly an aggressive twat.

+2

It's true, I'm not a programmer.

It shows very clearly. Please, refrain from commenting things You do not understand at all.

It's nothing like telling a musician to be a sound-designer. It's like telling a cook who complains it's too dark in the kitchen to flip on the light switch.

You know, probably I could recompile the Obxd code if I wanted to, but I programmed quite a lot of things in C++ and other languages.
Even so, I'd need to learn, how to configure the programming environment etc.
So for many people here it's not "telling a cook" but "telling a musician to learn cooking"

[aciddose]

I could absolutely agree with that so long as we're cooking a burrito in the microwave. Admittedly I suppose the control panel on the microwave is all in Chinese.

Or maybe it's more like...



How do I flush this thing?



"Just call down to the IT dept. and have them flush it. It's on speed-dial. It's #2. "

[Rappo Clappo]

@aciddose

Yeah, but I suppose a technical person could figure out how a microwave oven works without having any knowledge of Chinese. Or any other specific language.

You seem to have some trouble with it though....