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Pyrotek45 wrote:There no point in switching to 64bit. If your daw forces you to, find a new daw. 32 programs and 64 bit programs sound identical. Only difference is 64bit can use more ram. That doesn't really help vsts unless its sound libraries amd sample devices.
Of course let's switch our DAW that we know inside out for years because we desperately want to use one 32bit VST. :lol:

But hey, there's an alternative... :hihi:

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2ZrgE wrote:
Pyrotek45 wrote:There no point in switching to 64bit. If your daw forces you to, find a new daw. 32 programs and 64 bit programs sound identical. Only difference is 64bit can use more ram. That doesn't really help vsts unless its sound libraries amd sample devices.
Of course let's switch our DAW that we know inside out for years because we desperately want to use one 32bit VST. :lol:

But hey, there's an alternative... :hihi:
Yet people tell Adam the same thing about flowstone. See the double standard? Everyone wants adam to switch coding platform but no one wants to a switch daws. Seema hypocritical to me. If people dont want to switch daws they have no right telling adam to switch Coding platforms.
~Pyrotek45

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Is flowstone in development for 64bit?
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Pyrotek45 wrote:Yet people tell Adam the same thing about flowstone. See the double standard? Everyone wants adam to switch coding platform but no one wants to a switch daws. Seema hypocritical to me. If people dont want to switch daws they have no right telling adam to switch Coding platforms.
The customer is always right.;)

TBH I have zero problem using a 32-bit DAW for the kind of projects where Virus/Viper sounds are involved.

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4damind wrote: I think you have 2 different options:
No, I think you have 2 options: Dont use it, or use it with Jbridge. Problem f**king solved :lol:
(that was a joke above) In seriousness, I spent 4 years of hard work on this I did all the work, you guys could do a little work and use Jbridge. It is the most simple solution for your 64 bit needs. Or dont use shitty DAW which dont support 32 bit plugins (joke here too). Use FL Studio or Studio One, or Reaper, or any other, the people using these hosts dont even notice if the plugins is in 64 or 32 bit its so seameless. Or hey use Jbridge (again), and problem solved.

There is no way in hell I am partnering with anyone, the risk of someone stealing and running with my 4 years of work (my magnum opus, and creating a 32 bit, 64 bit, windows, mac, au, aax, rtas, protools god knows how many f**king plugin formats are there) is too great. I rather sell fewer copies than someone getting rich with my work. And no I dont wanna sign contracts and lawyers and all that shit I dont have time for that I am trying to finish my synth here :lol:
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I think the maths are simple. Wanna have these famous Virus sounds in your tracks, incl the hypersaws? Either buy a Virus TI (from 500 EUR used discontinued model, obsolete USB1 port, bugs and crashes allover the place, one active plugin instance per a project with 3 outputs) or buy Viper + Jbridge (i think about 110 - 120 EUR in total based on the price announced earlier, unlimited instances, perspectives for proper support and future development, hopefully much more stable even with the bridge).

Ok, upon release Viper won't do everything what Virus does but actually about 70% of the unique Virus sound is in its fiters and effects which seem to be properly modelled. These pads, plucks, fat basses and floating arpeggios Virus is known for are mostly based on its VA oscillator.
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recursive one wrote:Ok, upon release Viper won't do everything what Virus does but actually about 70% of the unique Virus sound is in its fiters and effects which seem to be properly modelled. These pads, plucks, fat basses and floating arpeggios Virus is known for are mostly based on its VA oscillator.
Yes, Virus C which was perhaps the most iconic synth at the time, it had only the classic oscillators, yet it was the most popular legendary hardware synth. Viper has nearly everything that a Virus C has,but has the Hypersaw too (which came with the Virus Ti), and more features are planned after 1.00, but I had to draw the line somewhere, I could develop it forever without ever releasing it.
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adamtrance wrote:
recursive one wrote:Ok, upon release Viper won't do everything what Virus does but actually about 70% of the unique Virus sound is in its fiters and effects which seem to be properly modelled. These pads, plucks, fat basses and floating arpeggios Virus is known for are mostly based on its VA oscillator.
Yes, Virus C which was perhaps the most iconic synth at the time, it had only the classic oscillators, yet it was the most popular legendary hardware synth. Viper has nearly everything that a Virus C has,but has the Hypersaw too (which came with the Virus Ti), and more features are planned after 1.00, but I had to draw the line somewhere, I could develop it forever without ever releasing it.
Any idea how much this thing is gonna cost so i can start saving now lol.
~Pyrotek45

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Pyrotek45 wrote:
adamtrance wrote:
recursive one wrote:Ok, upon release Viper won't do everything what Virus does but actually about 70% of the unique Virus sound is in its fiters and effects which seem to be properly modelled. These pads, plucks, fat basses and floating arpeggios Virus is known for are mostly based on its VA oscillator.
Yes, Virus C which was perhaps the most iconic synth at the time, it had only the classic oscillators, yet it was the most popular legendary hardware synth. Viper has nearly everything that a Virus C has,but has the Hypersaw too (which came with the Virus Ti), and more features are planned after 1.00, but I had to draw the line somewhere, I could develop it forever without ever releasing it.
Any idea how much this thing is gonna cost so i can start saving now lol.
What ever the price will be it should be half the price since it is only 32-bit ..don't you think? Kidding!
:hihi: ..seriously though, I heard introduction price would be around $99 -ish.
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I have done a lof of calculations, comparing features and what it can do compared to other synths, how much work I have put into this, plus it will have free updates and so on, I have decided it will be 89€. Not much to pay for a proper Virusy sound I think ;)
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Sounds good ;) If you can nail that granular formant part, I'd be happy to pay many times this amount!
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recursive one wrote:Ok, upon release Viper won't do everything what Virus does but actually about 70% of the unique Virus sound is in its fiters and effects which seem to be properly modelled. These pads, plucks, fat basses and floating arpeggios Virus is known for are mostly based on its VA oscillator.
This is the big question, whether the plugin really fills the gap or it's only another VA with the intention to be a Virus emulation. If it sounds 1:1 like a Virus and people say "wow, this sounds exactly like the hardware", there is a good chance people will try it (also with some of the Flowstone limitations we spoke about).
There is also the question if it sounds more like a Virus C or Ti.. which waveforms are included etc.

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4damind wrote:
recursive one wrote:Ok, upon release Viper won't do everything what Virus does but actually about 70% of the unique Virus sound is in its fiters and effects which seem to be properly modelled. These pads, plucks, fat basses and floating arpeggios Virus is known for are mostly based on its VA oscillator.
This is the big question, whether the plugin really fills the gap or it's only another VA with the intention to be a Virus emulation. If it sounds 1:1 like a Virus and people say "wow, this sounds exactly like the hardware", there is a good chance people will try it (also with some of the Flowstone limitations we spoke about).
There is also the question if it sounds more like a Virus C or Ti.. which waveforms are included etc.
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adamtrance wrote:I have done a lof of calculations, comparing features and what it can do compared to other synths, how much work I have put into this, plus it will have free updates and so on, I have decided it will be 89€. Not much to pay for a proper Virusy sound I think ;)
If it's really a Virus clone (double-blind proved, not by comparing some selected sounds and wave forms via oscilloscope on Youtube) and not a "Sounds-like-a-Virus" clone (we have enough of that already), then that's really a steal. :)

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For me it sound good and interesting, regardless of the fact that it can replicate Virus exactly or not. If I really want a synths that can do exactly what Virus can do then I just buy a Virus :P
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