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onathanj · Post by **onathanj** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:57 pm

Impressive patches there. I really can´t get those sounds out of my Zebra...care to share those great patches?

/Jonathan

pdxindy wrote:Here are a few plucked or struck string type sounds made in Zebra... my effort is not accurate emulation, but rather catching the appealing spirit of stringed instruments.

http://draigathar.org/sounds/detar.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/Stringzz2.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/evoltring.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/pluck5.mp3

If you are gonna use the comb module, then use an Osc as the exciter. Put a super short env on the Osc so it is quick transient and feed that into the comb module.

Envelope shape and slope matters a lot. Also, some sounds I put a second Osc at a much lower level with a bit longer envelope and some attack to create string buzz or sympathetic resonance. Sometimes I use the second comb module for that. But before doing any experimenting with that extra complexity, spend some time just with 1 Osc into 1 Comb Module.

It is possible to make all sorts of great string type sounds without the comb modules too. But using the comb modules are the easier place to start.

atmelcool · Post by **atmelcool** » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:33 pm

I wonder how the guitar patch looks like without using a comb filter?

Stollmeister · Post by **Stollmeister** » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:32 pm

pdxindy wrote:Here are a few plucked or struck string type sounds made in Zebra... my effort is not accurate emulation, but rather catching the appealing spirit of stringed instruments.

http://draigathar.org/sounds/detar.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/Stringzz2.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/evoltring.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/pluck5.mp3

If you are gonna use the comb module, then use an Osc as the exciter. Put a super short env on the Osc so it is quick transient and feed that into the comb module.

Envelope shape and slope matters a lot. Also, some sounds I put a second Osc at a much lower level with a bit longer envelope and some attack to create string buzz or sympathetic resonance. Sometimes I use the second comb module for that. But before doing any experimenting with that extra complexity, spend some time just with 1 Osc into 1 Comb Module.

It is possible to make all sorts of great string type sounds without the comb modules too. But using the comb modules are the easier place to start.

Pdxindy, your Zebra patches always amazes me! I love how you tend to make very organic patches that almost sound like they are some strange unknown acoustic instruments. Did you ever get around to releasing a Zebra library?

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:26 pm

So many usb modeling amps, Fender, Marshall, Peavey, line6, Yamaha,
not to mention hords of pedal based hardware from Zoom, Boss, Korg,
yada yada, at some point, some percentage of these $players$ will want to
go in the box to record their usb output, starting with, but not limited to,
an amps bare guitar tone, so I think there would be a market for
a dedicated guitar effects sub-app from U-he, if not just an accurately advertised
soundset covering a wide range of popular guitar effects. Some amps lack
a computer gui for editing, or have mediocre ones, and U-he already
have that part largely covered...I wouldn't suggest calling it Guibik

but I think there is money to be made if carefully named and marketed.
I made some spiders run for cover using
a hi-gain amp preset with zebrify sounds

Cheers

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:25 am

Stollmeister wrote:
Pdxindy, your Zebra patches always amazes me! I love how you tend to make very organic patches that almost sound like they are some strange unknown acoustic instruments. Did you ever get around to releasing a Zebra library?

Thank you for your kind words!

Never finished up the Zebra soundset. For 5-6 years I ran an urban based organic farm and that was far more than a full time project. Then for the past 2+ years I have been a more than full time volunteer for climate and social justice work. That culminated recently in Portland (where I currently live) passing a 100% renewable resolution. A solid victory for the crew of peeps I work with! That now feels like a good stopping point for me. Having been engrossed (happily so) in such projects for well over a decade, I feel like doing something different. So I have decided to go travel for 6-12 months... Europe and Asia I expect.

All that is to say that it would be fun while on my travels to finally finish up some soundsets and make them available. I'll have my laptop, baby Linnstrument and headphones! I think it would be fun to visit u-he headquarters too!

spunkmuffin · Post by **spunkmuffin** » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:46 pm

pdxindy good luck on your travels. Take care when crossing the road. Remember always look both ways before you cross. Please post a pic when you get to u-he HQ.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:01 am

spunkmuffin wrote:pdxindy good luck on your travels. Take care when crossing the road. Remember always look both ways before you cross. Please post a pic when you get to u-he HQ.

Thanks!

The main road down the street from where I live requires looking both ways, both ways, twice... hehe

and yeah, if I make it to u-he HQ, will post a pic!

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:49 am

Are you really visiting Berlin, pdxindy?

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:17 pm

Howard wrote:Are you really visiting Berlin, pdxindy?

I'll be in Europe for couple months... so while Berlin is not directly on my (very flexible) itinerary, it wont be so far away... so the thought crossed my mind to visit!

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:19 pm

If I were you I'd totally hang out with the u-he crew.

clangorous · Post by **clangorous** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:56 am

pdxindy wrote:Here are a few plucked or struck string type sounds made in Zebra...
http://draigathar.org/sounds/detar.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/Stringzz2.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/evoltring.mp3
http://draigathar.org/sounds/pluck5.mp3

Holy cow these are exquisite! Inspired me to work on this starting with your comments about using an Osc into a Comb. I am nowhere close yet but this is fun. If I fail at least I will understand the Comb module much better. Thanks for sharing these!

3ee · Post by **3ee** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:00 am

EvilDragon wrote:If I were you I'd totally hang out with the u-he crew.

tell me 'bout it!

added: also, come hang with me (us)... near (and then into) the Carpathian Mountains!

clangorous · Post by **clangorous** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:29 am

Here's another one for you to try atmelcool.

3ee already uploaded one using the approach pxindy suggested and it sounds great. I tried that approach and could not get the Osc transient to feed into the Comb in a way that I liked. So with this one I simply mix the Osc and Comb sounds. Also this one does not really use the Osc to enhance the pluck but rather the ambient resonance. You can adjust that with Mix1.

Here's a sample. Zebra only - no external effects just a stock limiter so I could get it loud enough without clipping. Doesn't change the character of it:

Acrostic Greetar (Phrigyan)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/humut3w55o3sl ... n.mp3?dl=1

Here's the patch:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhd8eij75yctl ... r%20T3.h2p

Enjoy!

Edit: Fixed the link and the file plays now (for Dropbox seems we need to add "?dl=1" to the end of the filename)

surreal · Post by **surreal** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:21 am

Referencing Guitars research with zebra

atmelcool · Post by **atmelcool** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:03 pm

Thank you?!

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